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LSU Talent Level
Posted on 8/6/10 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 8/6/10 at 7:05 pm
QB:
LSU----
Jordan Jefferson 4*
Jarrett Lee 4*
RB:
LSU----
Micheal Ford 4*
Steven Ridley 4*
Richard Murphy 4*
WR:
LSU---
Terrance Toliver 5*
Rueban Randle 5*
Russell Shepard 5*
TE:
LSU----
Chase Clement 4*
Deangelo Peterson 4*
OL:
LSU---
Joseph Barksdale 4*
Alex Hurst 3*
Will Blackwell 4*
Josh Dworaczyk 4*
Peter Lonegran 3*
DL:
LSU----
Lavar Edwards 3*
Chancey Aghayere 4*
Drake Nevis 4*
L. Levingstone 3*
LB:
LSU----
Kelvin Sheppard 3*
Ryan Baker 4*
Stefoin Francois 4*
CB:
LSU---
Morris Claiborne 3*
Patrick Peterson 5*
S:
LSU---
Brandon Taylor 4*
Jai Eugene 4*
K/P:
LSU---
Josh Jasper 3*
Derek Helton 3*
All of the star rankings taken from Rivals, the depth chart is courtesy of Depth Chart
Flame Away Fellas
LSU----
Jordan Jefferson 4*
Jarrett Lee 4*
RB:
LSU----
Micheal Ford 4*
Steven Ridley 4*
Richard Murphy 4*
WR:
LSU---
Terrance Toliver 5*
Rueban Randle 5*
Russell Shepard 5*
TE:
LSU----
Chase Clement 4*
Deangelo Peterson 4*
OL:
LSU---
Joseph Barksdale 4*
Alex Hurst 3*
Will Blackwell 4*
Josh Dworaczyk 4*
Peter Lonegran 3*
DL:
LSU----
Lavar Edwards 3*
Chancey Aghayere 4*
Drake Nevis 4*
L. Levingstone 3*
LB:
LSU----
Kelvin Sheppard 3*
Ryan Baker 4*
Stefoin Francois 4*
CB:
LSU---
Morris Claiborne 3*
Patrick Peterson 5*
S:
LSU---
Brandon Taylor 4*
Jai Eugene 4*
K/P:
LSU---
Josh Jasper 3*
Derek Helton 3*
All of the star rankings taken from Rivals, the depth chart is courtesy of Depth Chart
Flame Away Fellas
Posted on 8/6/10 at 7:06 pm to tduecen
I think this will be a great season.
Posted on 8/6/10 at 7:08 pm to tduecen
Sam Montgomery and Ken Adams will be the starting DE's.
Posted on 8/6/10 at 7:08 pm to tduecen
quote:
Flame Away Fellas
What's to flame?
Posted on 8/6/10 at 7:09 pm to KBeezy
quote:Tiger Rant, they will find something...
What's to flame?
Posted on 8/6/10 at 7:11 pm to tduecen
quote:
flame away fellas
ok ill give it a try...
durrr we still have les miles as our coach durrrr we'll be lucky to win 8 games durrrr
Posted on 8/6/10 at 7:18 pm to hg
quote:
Les Miles a 2 star
Maybe we can coach him up.
Posted on 8/6/10 at 7:26 pm to tduecen
quote:
QB:
LSU----
Jordan Jefferson 4*
Jarrett Lee 4*
RB:
LSU----
Micheal Ford 4*
Steven Ridley 4*
Richard Murphy 4*
WR:
LSU---
Terrance Toliver 5*
Rueban Randle 5*
Russell Shepard 5*
I like. I was sure Ford had been a 5*...
Did another service have him higher?
Posted on 8/6/10 at 7:27 pm to LSUfan71
Scout I believe had him as a 5*
Posted on 8/6/10 at 7:34 pm to tduecen
A.
those stars are not written in stone.
MO Claiborne was apparently underestimated.
Its someone's idea, based on THEIR points of view.
Its not REALITY as it WILL unfold.
B. However, the rivals ratings are often VERY indicative. Someone ran some numbers a few years ago, I recall, using the stars over a five year period.
There was a HIGH correlation, between being the highest rated recruiting class, out of high school, and actually being #1 in the SEC west. IT DID NOT WORK 100%, but there was a high correlation. the worst the highest rated team did was 2nd.
And sometimes the 2nd team won. being highest rated was based on adding up all the classes for a given school/team.
Most years, the highest recruiting value as a team, won the SEC west.
the numbers I saw were for the SEC west teams, before BAMA had re-arrived. So Auburn and LSU were the big dogs in the data and in real life.
being highest rated was based on adding up all the classes for a given school/team.
I know Nutt and Ark won his first year after he left Murray. That was not based on stars. That was based on rah rah, gung ho!
those stars are not written in stone.
MO Claiborne was apparently underestimated.
Its someone's idea, based on THEIR points of view.
Its not REALITY as it WILL unfold.
B. However, the rivals ratings are often VERY indicative. Someone ran some numbers a few years ago, I recall, using the stars over a five year period.
There was a HIGH correlation, between being the highest rated recruiting class, out of high school, and actually being #1 in the SEC west. IT DID NOT WORK 100%, but there was a high correlation. the worst the highest rated team did was 2nd.
And sometimes the 2nd team won. being highest rated was based on adding up all the classes for a given school/team.
Most years, the highest recruiting value as a team, won the SEC west.
the numbers I saw were for the SEC west teams, before BAMA had re-arrived. So Auburn and LSU were the big dogs in the data and in real life.
being highest rated was based on adding up all the classes for a given school/team.
I know Nutt and Ark won his first year after he left Murray. That was not based on stars. That was based on rah rah, gung ho!
Posted on 8/6/10 at 9:59 pm to tduecen
Can you do the same for Bama and Fla for comparison?
Posted on 8/6/10 at 10:00 pm to tduecen
You didn't list coaching levels . . .
Posted on 8/6/10 at 10:02 pm to justustm2
quote:
Can you do the same for Bama
Did one for Alabama on SEC Rant...
Posted on 8/6/10 at 10:03 pm to tduecen
QB:
LSU----
Jordan Jefferson 4*
Jarrett Lee 4*
Alabama----
Greg McElroy 3*
A.J. McCarron 4*
RB:
LSU----
Micheal Ford 4*
Steven Ridley 4*
Richard Murphy 4*
Alabama---
Mark Ingram 4*
Trent Richardson 5*
Eddie Lacey 4*
WR:
LSU---
Terrance Toliver 5*
Rueban Randle 5*
Russell Shepard 5*
Alabama----
Julio Jones 5*
Marquis Maze 3*
Darius Hanks 3*
TE:
LSU----
Chase Clement 4*
Deangelo Peterson 4*
Alabama---
Micheal Williams 4*
Preston Dial 3*
OL:
LSU---
Joseph Barksdale 4*
Alex Hurst 3*
Will Blackwell 4*
Josh Dworaczyk 4*
Peter Lonegran 3*
Alabama---
James Carpenter 4*
Chance Warmack 3*
William Vlachos 3*
Barret Jones 4*
D.J. Fluker 5*
DL:
LSU----
Lavar Edwards 3*
Chancey Aghayere 4*
Drake Nevis 4*
L. Levingstone 3*
Alabama---
Marcell Dareus 3*
Luther Davis 4*
Josh Chapman 3*
LB:
LSU----
Kelvin Sheppard 3*
Ryan Baker 4*
Stefoin Francois 4*
Alabama---
Jerrell Harris 4*
Courtney Upshaw 4*
Dont'a Hightower 4*
Nico Johnson 5*
CB:
LSU---
Morris Claiborne 3*
Patrick Peterson 5*
Alabama---
BJ Scott 5*
Dre Kirkpatrick 5*
S:
LSU---
Brandon Taylor 4*
Jai Eugene 4*
Alabama---
Mark Barron 4*
Robert Lester 4*
K/P:
LSU---
Josh Jasper 3*
Derek Helton 3*
Alabama---
Who the frick is kicking for you guys?
LSU----
Jordan Jefferson 4*
Jarrett Lee 4*
Alabama----
Greg McElroy 3*
A.J. McCarron 4*
RB:
LSU----
Micheal Ford 4*
Steven Ridley 4*
Richard Murphy 4*
Alabama---
Mark Ingram 4*
Trent Richardson 5*
Eddie Lacey 4*
WR:
LSU---
Terrance Toliver 5*
Rueban Randle 5*
Russell Shepard 5*
Alabama----
Julio Jones 5*
Marquis Maze 3*
Darius Hanks 3*
TE:
LSU----
Chase Clement 4*
Deangelo Peterson 4*
Alabama---
Micheal Williams 4*
Preston Dial 3*
OL:
LSU---
Joseph Barksdale 4*
Alex Hurst 3*
Will Blackwell 4*
Josh Dworaczyk 4*
Peter Lonegran 3*
Alabama---
James Carpenter 4*
Chance Warmack 3*
William Vlachos 3*
Barret Jones 4*
D.J. Fluker 5*
DL:
LSU----
Lavar Edwards 3*
Chancey Aghayere 4*
Drake Nevis 4*
L. Levingstone 3*
Alabama---
Marcell Dareus 3*
Luther Davis 4*
Josh Chapman 3*
LB:
LSU----
Kelvin Sheppard 3*
Ryan Baker 4*
Stefoin Francois 4*
Alabama---
Jerrell Harris 4*
Courtney Upshaw 4*
Dont'a Hightower 4*
Nico Johnson 5*
CB:
LSU---
Morris Claiborne 3*
Patrick Peterson 5*
Alabama---
BJ Scott 5*
Dre Kirkpatrick 5*
S:
LSU---
Brandon Taylor 4*
Jai Eugene 4*
Alabama---
Mark Barron 4*
Robert Lester 4*
K/P:
LSU---
Josh Jasper 3*
Derek Helton 3*
Alabama---
Who the frick is kicking for you guys?
Posted on 8/6/10 at 10:51 pm to ottothewise
Kelvin was a 3 star and he's pre-season all sec and will likely be a first or second round pick next year. Al woods was a 5 star and he was lucky to even get into the NFL.
star rankings are made on potential alone and many times they are accurate, but there is no way a star system is going to accurately predict everyone. There are lots of guys who develop later, work harder or benefit from great coaching (non LSU players).
star rankings are made on potential alone and many times they are accurate, but there is no way a star system is going to accurately predict everyone. There are lots of guys who develop later, work harder or benefit from great coaching (non LSU players).
Posted on 8/6/10 at 11:07 pm to tduecen
Jeez, WR University here. Seriously though, how many 5* OL are there average a year?
Posted on 8/7/10 at 12:29 am to Jcorye1
Coaching staff good for 3-4 losses, just sayin'
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