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Posted on 12/9/15 at 1:34 pm to The Mick
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Does everyone agree with this?
I sincerely hope you are joking. The Atlanta area alone has ONE MILLION more people than the ENTIRE STATE of Louisiana does...and that's not even counting the rest of Georgia's population outside of the Atlanta area. Yes, the Georgia job is more attractive than the LSU job.
This post was edited on 12/9/15 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 12/9/15 at 1:40 pm to dgnx6
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I guess same reason they will have a bigger stipend than LSU if they start paying players.
wtf? it wouldn't be the same for every university? well that would be some bs
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Would you rather LSU spend less money just because they can recruit Louisiana? Or do you want LSU to find the best players no matter where they are from?
I would rather secure the top in state talent and recruit nationally based on needs we can't fill with in state talent.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 1:44 pm to TheDude321
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the Georgia job is more attractive than the LSU job.
would love to know how many major D1 universities are closer to Athens than LSU...also you can only sign 25 kids a year
Posted on 12/9/15 at 3:15 pm to MSTiger33
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This doesn't make sense. How can the author say we have unreasonable expectations when we are top 5 in talent and recruiting such talent? If you are top 5 in talent then you should be competing for championships on a consistent basis.
Exactly. We all know shite happens, so a down year here and there are understandable. But more often than not we should be in the top 5 to 15 range. And we aren't doing that anymore.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 3:25 pm to Topwater Trout
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I would rather secure the top in state talent and recruit nationally based on needs we can't fill with in state talent.
Same here. And no, stipends wouldnt be the same everywhere. Basically they are saying it cost more to live in Tuscaloosa than baton rouge, which i dont know how it is possible because br has/had the highest average rent of any sec town. At least it was that way when I was in school. And with all the new stuff popping up everywhere, I doubt it has changed. LSU would be able to give like $3000 and Bama $5000. I dont know the exact numbers though.
This post was edited on 12/9/15 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 12/9/15 at 3:29 pm to PhillyFan1994
Funny thing is how everyone talks about how great of a recruiter CLM but his highest rated class at OK St was 29th in the country in 2003. He didn't start having top classes until he got here. So why can't someone else come in and get more production out of their talent?
Posted on 12/9/15 at 3:33 pm to PhillyFan1994
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5. LSU Tigers
In a state that is seriously loaded with talent, LSU has no serious in-state competition for players, has terrific facilities and a huge and passionate (if occasionally unreasonable in its expectations) fan base.
So with all this great information, i would love to know what ESPN considers reasonable expectations of the program with such well paid coaches. 4th in the west? unranked finishes? Is that what we should expect?
Posted on 12/9/15 at 3:34 pm to dgnx6
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LSU would be able to give like $3000 and Bama $5000. I dont know the exact numbers though.
No way this ever happens
Posted on 12/9/15 at 3:43 pm to LosLobos111
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I mean they have GT and the same rivals next door
I wouldn't put them 4 higher
It's based on the fact that Georgia even with GT is the top dog in a talent rich state that simply has more to choose from than Louisiana. Texas, FLorida, and Cali are the only states that produce more talent but each one of those states have a few power 5 schools.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 4:01 pm to The Mick
They seriously underestimate how much bull all the neighboring stats have in Georgia
Auburn, Alabama, Florida, Florida State and Clemson are all right there
Auburn, Alabama, Florida, Florida State and Clemson are all right there
Posted on 12/9/15 at 4:06 pm to PhillyFan1994
these type of surveys stink. Louisiana does NOT produce enough athletes at every position to get the job done. it is necessary EVERY YEAR to go out of state for talent.
we are just too small of a state and lots of other teams recruit here. obviously we don't produce enough linebackers, ol, dl and qb's.
we are just too small of a state and lots of other teams recruit here. obviously we don't produce enough linebackers, ol, dl and qb's.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 4:06 pm to LesTiger
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Funny thing is how everyone talks about how great of a recruiter CLM but his highest rated class at OK St was 29th in the country in 2003. He didn't start having top classes until he got here. So why can't someone else come in and get more production out of their talent?
It's not that someone else can't come in and do it. It is that by going through LSU history and even coaches out there you can get you are more likely to do worse than Les than better.
Does not mean you shouldn't take a chance but this is why people defend Les. Yes you can do better but there is a better chance you could do worse.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 4:18 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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And bama spends 8 times what lsu does on recruiting.
I don't think that's true, is it?
in 2012 - 2013 Bama Spent a little under a million and we spent a little over half a million.
(so theirs is roughly double).
It also costs them nearly double the recruiting dollars for a real world win (77k to 41k).
I don't think there is any question that spending more money wouldn't yield some results, but we're pretty efficient at recruiting.
Tennessee, for example, spends 1.2 million at a cost of 231k per win!
Posted on 12/9/15 at 4:30 pm to dukke v
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Saban has proven he can develop players better than Miles.
Because she is getting far better talent.
The gap between lsu and bama is bigger than the gap between lsu and Ole miss.
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Is LSU on the same level as MSU,Ole Miss, A & M,and Arkie????? If not...Then why do we have the same record or WORSE than these teams the last two years?????
Last year it was because we had a team comprised of true freshamn. Not one of our starting skill position players had more than 2 games started.
We don't have near or worse record than arky. Ole Miss is about to go back to being ole miss because they are losing all their star power and we beat Miss st this year.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 4:36 pm to Topwater Trout
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saban had to build a winner...Miles took over a winner
Again. Saban walked into a program littered with future nfl talent.
Rohan Davey
Josh Reed
Bradie James
trev Faulk
Dominak DAVIS
Devery Henderson
Eddie Royal
Labrandon Toefield
Chad Lavalais
Jarvis Green
Kendrick allen
Ryan Clark
Stephen peterman
Were all here before saban got here. Saban then proceeded to lose 4 games in 2000,3 games in 01,and 5 games in 02. This bullshite about Saban having to build this program is bullshite. He walked into a program stacked with future nfl players. His 2000 team had way more talent than Miles' 2013 Team.
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Do you honestly believe that CLM could have followed Dinardo and out program would have had the success it had since Dinardo? if so why? how many programs has CLM built into a powerhouse?
This just goes to show how little you know about cfb. Maintaining a powerhouse program is far harder than Building one. That's common knowledge. Also this notion that Saban had built lsu into this powerhouse program is fricking bullshite. This is Saban's tenure.
2000-4 losses
2001-3 losses
2002-5 losses
2003-1 loss
2004-3 losses
1 top 5 finish in 5 years isn't a powerhouse.
These are facts.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 4:55 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Rickdaddy,
I applaud you. I really do.
For years, I tried to do the same thing you did.
People here don't give a shite.
Most are just above functional retardation. I'm convinced of it.
Numbers, stats, real-world examples....
None of that does anything for these idiots.
They really and truly believe LSU is right there with Saban/Bama when it comes to on the field and off the field standards/advantages.
They really and truly believe that if Saban stayed at LSU, we would have all of these titles, despite LSU-Saban's stats.
You can show them those numbers all day, as well as Saban's penalty stats while at LSU and they still believe the BS.
One day, you will just do what I do: come here for entertainment and to bash the shite out of every stupid thread.
I still, to this day, have great insight/knowledge into the program that I will never waste my time sharing here. It is pointless.
I just want you to know someone here appreciates your effort while you are still willing to give it.
I applaud you. I really do.
For years, I tried to do the same thing you did.
People here don't give a shite.
Most are just above functional retardation. I'm convinced of it.
Numbers, stats, real-world examples....
None of that does anything for these idiots.
They really and truly believe LSU is right there with Saban/Bama when it comes to on the field and off the field standards/advantages.
They really and truly believe that if Saban stayed at LSU, we would have all of these titles, despite LSU-Saban's stats.
You can show them those numbers all day, as well as Saban's penalty stats while at LSU and they still believe the BS.
One day, you will just do what I do: come here for entertainment and to bash the shite out of every stupid thread.
I still, to this day, have great insight/knowledge into the program that I will never waste my time sharing here. It is pointless.
I just want you to know someone here appreciates your effort while you are still willing to give it.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 5:20 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
SORRY Miles is nothing more than a coach with the coaching ability of an AVG High School Coach who is SAVED by something no other Coach Except for Saban ever Had at LSU, A budget to hire the best arse Coaches is the Country and even with this Highest Paid coaching Staff and all the recruits one could ask for, this Man has the ability to turn Great into AVGERAGE!!! To the Miles lovers, as long as we have this buyout hanging over our head's we are stuck with Mediocrity!!!1 So you Miles lovers REJOICE
Posted on 12/9/15 at 5:25 pm to vjm41
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as long as we have this buyout hanging over our head's we are stuck with Mediocrity!!!
How many losing seasons has Miles had?
Posted on 12/9/15 at 5:29 pm to cas4t
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Posted by cas4t on 12/9/15 at 12:37 pm to PhillyFan1994 Jimbo would win a couple titles at LSU
A decent high school coach would be able to at least compete.
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