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LSU makes dc's...not the other way around...

Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:47 pm
Posted by rumproast
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:47 pm
.LSU has been incredible on defense. Muschamp...Pelini...and Chavis...all walked out of B.R. as masterminds. Don't get me wrong.....all good coordinators...but do you ever think that their success may have something to do with the incredible talent LSU lands year inand year oit rather than their "schemes"??? I could probably do a pretty good job with Marcus Spears and Marquise Hill (R.I. P.) As my bookends......just saying...
This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 10:51 pm
Posted by BasilBogomil
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:48 pm to
Malveto

/thread
Posted by LSUTIGERS8181
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:49 pm to
Spelling. It may help you in life.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:50 pm to
good post…but come on man. Proof read for fricks sake.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

do you ever think that their success may have something to do with the incredible talent LSU lands year inand year oit rather than their "schemes"???

No.

Because Malveto.
Posted by rumproast
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:51 pm to
Posting from an android phone. .give me a little bit of a break....
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:52 pm to
swype sucks bro

come over to the real side, the iPhone side
Posted by bd4lsu
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:56 pm to
Not true...
Posted by rumproast
Member since Dec 2003
12093 posts
Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:15 pm to
OK...thanks for the insight. You can't deny that LSU's talent has been amazing. We apparently have been blessed with the most amazing DC hire for the entirety of Miles' tenure. You can't deny that talent hasn't had 99% to do with it. I mean....Maurice Claiborne....HB7...Patrick Peterson....Marcus Spears...Marquise Hill....Jarvis Green....Bradie James...Chad Lavalais....Corey Webster...Booger...Laron Landry...Chad Jones....Drake Nevis...Tyson Jackson...Glenn Dorsey.....etc....all products of "the system"......right????? Face it....LSU D has been loaded with talent. That has SOMETHING to do with the success of our dc's. That's all I'm saying....
This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 11:17 pm
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:28 pm to
Malveto and Tepper disagree. And Pelini and Chavis were considered masterminds before they got to BR.
Posted by OPOSPRPLGLD
Spring, Tx
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:29 pm to
Gee with this logic who needs coaches? Line up boys hand have fun.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:30 pm to
I actually thought Tepper was a good hire at the time. Dude wrote the book on linebacking
Posted by rumproast
Member since Dec 2003
12093 posts
Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:38 pm to
Tepper is definitely the turd in the punch bowl. It cannot be denied that the rest were blessed with talent to work with. And maybe the others were considered "masterminds"....but no question that talent had a lot to do with their success.....Ironically, Tepper was considered a "mastermind" based on his LB performance prior to LSU, correct?? Yet, our talent has been mostly on the DL and DB's...yes????
This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 11:39 pm
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:48 pm to
He was the LB guru and I think was a popular hire. I think the talent was mostly at DL back then but my memory is spotty
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:53 pm to
Not sure why you're getting downvoted, you made a completely valid point. I think a better way to put it would've been that LSU makes average DC's look like superstars though. Anything short of a trainwreck hire should turn out fine considering our abundance of talent.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68440 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 12:04 am to
04 and 05 classes were the worst we've had in 15 years. Thanks saban.

Oh yeah directly responsible for 2008.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44544 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 12:11 am to
quote:

Ironically, Tepper was considered a "mastermind" based on his LB performance prior to LSU, correct??


yeah he was a 3-4 guy with good LBs and Simeon Rice at DE.

quote:

Yet, our talent has been mostly on the DL and DB's...yes????


yeah, but Tepper actually walked into a good situation even at the LB spot. he had NFL players at every level . that 98 D had Joe Wesley (played for the Niners a few yrs) and Charles Smith at LB, who were a nice tandem, Booger, Jarvis Green, Arnold Miller, Mark Roman, Clarence Leblanc. it's still crazy to me how bad they were with all that talent.

the way Tepper played his CBs off WRs made the UT version of 3rd and Chavis look like tight man
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/6/15 at 12:15 am to
ummm, that 04 class was pretty stout. like one of the best of the 2000s.
Posted by BasilBogomil
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/6/15 at 12:32 am to
quote:

ummm, that 04 class was pretty stout. like one of the best of the 2000s.


No. 2 class in the country to be exact.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68440 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 12:35 am to
harry Coleman, tyson jackson and marlon favorite were left from that class on d, Ryan Miller herman johnson were the only offensive linemen left from that class.


From 05, alem committed after miles was hired, RJF committed after miles was hired, ciron and beckwith before miles.

rp, lafell and holiday after miles was hired. no one else from that class was any good. 7 players from one class did something.

so that was back when players were still red shirting, those were your upperclassmen.
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