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re: LSU has two really good quarterbacks. . .
Posted on 8/28/10 at 9:21 am to TIsuGGER
Posted on 8/28/10 at 9:21 am to TIsuGGER
quote:really? hmmmm....
And for the life of me I cant remember one game where the other QB was the difference between winning and losing
You must have missed the Georgia Tech('08),UGA,Arkansas and Auburn games last season
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Posted on 8/28/10 at 9:22 am to Roaad
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QB play last year was exceptional, when compared to OL play.
Troy Aikman would have looked like Aaron Brooks (with the Raiders), behind LSU's line.
Crutch for not releasing the ball after 5 seconds or taking 18 step drops. How about not stepping up in the pocket. If you want to say the O-Line didn't play-up to its potential you can say that. The last time I looked there was NO reason why teams put 8 men in the box other than the QB couldn't get rid of the ball even on 3 step drops and he couldn't throw it down field b/c he was waiting for the receivers to get open raather than anticipating them getting open. That is about timing, cohesion and trust.
This post was edited on 8/28/10 at 9:26 am
Posted on 8/28/10 at 9:27 am to Sammobile
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You must have missed the Georgia Tech('08),UGA,Arkansas and Auburn games last season
You mean the Ga Tech game where the defense gave up only 3 pts, the Arkansas game where their kicker missed a FG in OT, and the Auburn game where the defense didnt give up a point 'til after halftime?? Those games??
Andrew hatch could have QBd victories in those games.
Sorry, but I agree with his original assertion.
This post was edited on 8/28/10 at 9:28 am
Posted on 8/28/10 at 9:29 am to Sammobile
quote:
Georgia Tech('08),
first half
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UGA
charles scott
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Arkansas and Auburn
the difference? come one.
JJ wasnt the difference in any of these games youve listed.
Posted on 8/28/10 at 9:30 am to Roaad
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Roaad
I couldn't agree more.Posted on 8/28/10 at 9:36 am to RobbBobb
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You mean the Ga Tech game
where he won MVP
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the Arkansas game
where he lead us into field goal position during the final minutes of regulation time
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the Auburn game
he lead us to a blowout victory(his best game last season) when we needed it really bad, coming off the florida game
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Andrew hatch could have QBd victories in those games.
Didn't say the were Elway type performances but the post i responded to said he wasn't a difference in winning a game
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Sorry, but I agree with his original assertion.
so he never made a difference in us winning a game?
Posted on 8/28/10 at 9:38 am to Sammobile
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so he never made a difference in us winning a game?
yes he made a diff, but tech not the same as the diff.
Posted on 8/28/10 at 9:42 am to BT
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yes he made a diff,
thanks it's over then, he said a difference in us winning. I gave examples of games where he was, not how big the plays where compared to anyone, what are you arguing at this point?
Posted on 8/28/10 at 9:47 am to Sammobile
Im simply saying that JJ hasnt been the sole diff in winnning any game he has started.
That it what you initially said.
You said he was the diff in uga, gatech, au and ark.
That it what you initially said.
You said he was the diff in uga, gatech, au and ark.
Posted on 8/28/10 at 9:53 am to Sammobile
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thanks it's over then, he said a difference in us winning
No, because I clearly said
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the difference between winning and losing
Any QB could have beaten Ga Tech, who only scored 3 points
Any QB could have called Crowton, and said please don't make me throw it. Lets give it to Charles instead. After Trindon had returned the kickoff 40 yards.
Any QB could have beaten Auburn who hadn't scored by halftime
Any QB could have been standing on the sideline when Arkansas missed the FG in OT
I cannot think of one game where JJ had a Troy, Auburn, or S. Car. type victory; where the passing game stepped in to win it.
Posted on 8/28/10 at 9:54 am to BT
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Im simply saying that JJ hasnt been the sole diff in winnning any game he has started.
Hardly anyone is the sole difference in winning a team sport like football. Even in the examples the guy gave for Lee (Auburn, Troy, S. Car) he wasn't the sole difference why we won, but he was a major difference just like Jefferson in the games I mentioned.
Posted on 8/28/10 at 9:55 am to TIsuGGER
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I cannot think of one game where JJ had a Troy, Auburn, or S. Car. type victory; where the passing game stepped in to win it.
b/c it hasnt happened that's why.
Posted on 8/28/10 at 10:00 am to BT
can we at least agree with the op that LSU is in an enviable position with two good battle tested QB's. It's been a long time tha we've started a season with this kind of experience and talent at the QB position.
Posted on 8/28/10 at 10:11 am to cepheid
Yes I agree.
Posted on 8/28/10 at 10:16 am to TIsuGGER
quote:but Jefferson did, the defense held tight against Florida too but he didn't get it done, he did in those games
Any QB could have beaten Ga Tech, who only scored 3 points
Any QB could have beaten Auburn who hadn't scored by halftime
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Any QB could have called Crowton, and said please don't make me throw it. Lets give it to Charles instead.
or go to Crowton and telling him that he sees that running the ball against bulldogs defense would be more effective than throwing at that time
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Any QB could have been standing on the sideline when Arkansas missed the FG in OT
how did even we get into overtime against them?
Posted on 8/28/10 at 10:38 am to Roaad
Posted on 8/28/10 at 11:22 am to BT
quote:F that. Meet him outside at recess and dont bring your lunch Intrepid or he will take that too..
Get lost
you should take your own advice
Posted on 8/28/10 at 6:04 pm to TIsuGGER
quote:We put up so many points in the 1st half that they had to abandon the running game. JJ opened up a whole can that game.
Any QB could have beaten Ga Tech, who only scored 3 points
quote:Any of them could, but not many would.
Any QB could have called Crowton, and said please don't make me throw it. Lets give it to Charles instead. After Trindon had returned the kickoff 40 yards.
quote:Like Jamarcus Russell?
Any QB could have beaten Auburn who hadn't scored by halftime
Auburn had not scored by the half there, either.
quote:But JJ got us to that overtime.
Any QB could have been standing on the sideline when Arkansas missed the FG in OT
God you fricks are embarrassing.
Posted on 8/28/10 at 6:07 pm to Roaad
Quickly, pray, what are their names...
Posted on 8/28/10 at 6:07 pm to BT
quote:You guys need to be fair, here.
I cannot think of one game where JJ had a Troy, Auburn, or S. Car. type victory; where the passing game stepped in to win it.
Lee was also the direct reason we were in a deep hole in Auburn 08 and Troy.
Those games are a push in my mind. Lee played well to get the victory, but he was also the very reason that late game heroics were necessary. I equate both of those with JJ's 09 Arky game.
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