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Lsu has a very bad game and everyone is ready to jump off a bridge?

Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:28 am
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10444 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:28 am
You all realize this is basketball. Bad nights happen.

That doesn’t mean there aren’t flaws/issues with this team, but some of you are acting like they are just awful. They beat A&M basically the same way. It happens.

Nut up and stop overreacting. This isn’t football where one regular season game ends any shot you have.
Posted by HueyP
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:31 am to
Bama was hot last night. No One was going to beat them. Their water boy could probably hit 3s from mid court last night. Im not sure if any of their 3s even touched the rim.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18134 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:38 am to
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Bama was hot last night. No One was going to beat them. Their water boy could probably hit 3s from mid court last night. Im not sure if any of their 3s even touched the rim.
like another poster said, if Bama shoots their regular 3-point % (35%), then they'd have only made 15 3-pt shots last night. That's 8 fewer, which is 24 points. Bama was up 39 with two minutes left, before we cut the margin late - so we'd still lose handily.

And that's not factoring in that Bama would've gotten a few second chance points off of those misses.

So yes, Bama was on fire, but that doesn't erase the fact that our defense was awful, and in fact a large part of Bama's success was precisely because our defense WAS so awful.
This post was edited on 1/20/21 at 10:40 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:41 am to
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if Bama shoots their regular 3-point % (35%), then they'd have only made 15 3-pt shots last night. That's 8 fewer, which is 24 points. Bama was up 39 with two minutes left, before we cut the margin late - so we'd still lose handily.


this discounts the fact that Bama going up by 20 so quickly completely changed everything about the game

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and in fact a large part of Bama's success was precisely because our defense WAS so awful.


the initial run was not due to bad defense
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13069 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:43 am to
It was a bad night for LSU MBB. But we are 5-2 in the SEC and all alone in second place. 11 more SEC games to go.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:43 am to
we just got destroyed in a conference game at home and were never even in the game at any point
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:45 am to
You're on tRant. what were you expecting?
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18134 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:45 am to
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Lsu has a very bad game and everyone correctly questions the same defensive problems we've seen for 4 years
FIFY
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:49 am to
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This post was edited on 1/20/21 at 10:59 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:51 am to
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Holy shite...you don’t seriously believe this do you?



can you...read?
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23322 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:57 am to
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Bama was hot last night. No One was going to beat them.


Exactly. This happens in basketball. I would be surprised if this did not happen to LSU (where LSU is the hot team) over the course of the year.

Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
6766 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:58 am to
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ike another poster said, if Bama shoots their regular 3-point % (35%), then they'd have only made 15 3-pt shots last night. That's 8 fewer, which is 24 points. Bama was up 39 with two minutes left, before we cut the margin late - so we'd still lose handily.


That's true to an extent. If they don't go 14 of 19 from 3 in the first half and get up huge, we don't panic and try to force up a bunch of threes to counter it and the game likely won't get out of hand. All the shite started rolling downhill and it got out of hand. I am as positive as I can be if those threes don't all go in early, the game doesn't get out of hand like that. LSU's performance was as terrible as Bama's was good, but the utter panic and defeatism is extreme (though in no way surprising). Tennessee got runout of Florida's gym by 30 with Florida missing THREE starters. You people need to calm down some. If they don't bounce back against Kentucky Saturday, then its time to really worry.
This post was edited on 1/20/21 at 10:59 am
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28257 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:58 am to
Rational people are not "ready to jump off a bridge." But those same rational people recognize that Wade's approach to defense is horrible and simply ineffective relative to what I assume would the ultimate goal of the team/program...competing for a championship.

Wade has been very good here at LSU. No one can dispute that. But until and unless he changes how he wants his teams to defend there is going to be a cap on the level of success his program can achieve.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:58 am to
Same shite happened to auburn. They lived by the 3 and we boat raced them early in the year. Then they got hot and went to the final four (right?) based pretty much only on the 3
Posted by purplengold1
Illinois
Member since Feb 2009
5065 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 11:02 am to
This I completely agree with.

The defense is not perfect. LSU will not go deep into the NCAA tourney playing defense like they did last night (or running into a team that was shooting like Bama was).

I think you will need all you need to know about this team on Saturday. If you cannot come out and give 110% effort after a loss like that, there is obviously something wrong.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
10883 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 11:04 am to
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You all realize this is basketball. Bad nights happen.
Classic!

You forgot the "That's Basketball. We'll be Fine. Go support another team."

Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23322 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 11:04 am to
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Same shite happened to auburn. They lived by the 3 and we boat raced them early in the year. Then they got hot and went to the final four (right?) based pretty much only on the 3


You have to hope that LSU gets hot at tournament time.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10444 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 11:05 am to
Derek, you need to really chill man. Your boss isn’t going to get fired despite his incompetence. You don’t have to keep trying to bring down the best coach on campus to prop up your guy.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73471 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 11:13 am to
Anyone who watched the first half last night knows that Bama was ridiculous from 3-point range, and LSU was defending against it pretty well too. Bama will never have another game like that, and LSU will never have another opponent shoot like that from 3. People can bitch and moan and melt as much as they want, and it will make no difference.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28257 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 11:22 am to
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Same shite happened to auburn. They lived by the 3 and we boat raced them early in the year.


LSU won by 5, at home. Certainly not a "boat race"

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Then they got hot and went to the final four (right?) based pretty much only on the 3


Yes and no. Kentucky, not LSU, blasted them late in the year. After that they got hot and won 12 straight before falling to UVA in literally the final second of the game in the Final Four.

But while Auburn was a great 3 point shooting team, they were also a decent defensive team (top 40 in defensive efficiency). The offense was the headliner, but they weren't atrocious on defense. LSU is.

Even BEFORE the game last night LSU was 5th in the nation offensively and 100+ defensively. So while last night was their worst defensive effort of the season...it wasn't their ONLY bad defensive effort. In fact, games where LSU defends well under Wade are the exception...not the rule.

In the KenPom era (since 2002) no team has won the national championship and finished with a defensive efficiency rating BELOW 20th in the country. The adage that defense wins championships is statistically proven. Now a tremendous offense (which LSU has) can make up for defensive deficiencies...but only so much. The name of the game is "balance" (between offense and defense) And no team currently in the Kenpom top 50 is more unbalanced than LSU...as was the case last year.

The bottom line is that for as good a job as Wade has done in putting together a group who is outstanding on offense he has done an equally terrible job on the defensive end. That's not just my opinion. There is statistical evidence clearly showing just that. I'm not, nor have I ever called for Wade to be fired. But the lengths some fans will go to defend him despite a CLEAR and GLARING deficiency are strange.
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