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LSU Football 2014 - Teen Edition
Posted on 10/8/14 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 10/8/14 at 8:36 pm
I know this has been talked about a lot lately as an excuse for our down year so far. However, I was bored and looked into just how much more youthful we are than the SEC teams we've played. What I found were the following percentages:
LSU 46%
Auburn 20%
MSU 0%
These are the percentages of starters or major contributors on each team that are teenagers. There is a slight asterisk for AU, as their website does not list their birthdate, so I just went by Fr & So that are playing. AU's 20% also includes their punter/kicker. Granted, I don't know the other team's rosters as well as LSU's, but I went off of the pregame depth charts off of their respective fan websites.
The bottom line is that LSU played 2 teams that are significantly more mature/experienced which you cannot ignore. I know this may not be the best example, but my point is the best high school team in the country would get destroyed by the worst D1 college team. Our 18 year olds are certainly talented, but when they are lining up against 21/22 year olds that are experienced in the SEC, it's a tough matchup.
These are also 2 teams that haven't beaten us very much over the last several years, and who's players and fans were salivating over the opportunity to do so. By the way, these 2 teams are ranked #2 & #3 in the entire country (both are getting 1st place votes).
I know our youth is not our only issue, and am very concerned and disgusted with not being at least competitive with these teams, but I invite you all to look at the rosters of our SEC west brethren to see how much they are loosing after this year (Dan Mullen has to be looking to parlay this season into a coaching job jump after this year). If we can just improve each week, and get consistent QB play, 2015 looks very bright.
LSU 46%
Auburn 20%
MSU 0%
These are the percentages of starters or major contributors on each team that are teenagers. There is a slight asterisk for AU, as their website does not list their birthdate, so I just went by Fr & So that are playing. AU's 20% also includes their punter/kicker. Granted, I don't know the other team's rosters as well as LSU's, but I went off of the pregame depth charts off of their respective fan websites.
The bottom line is that LSU played 2 teams that are significantly more mature/experienced which you cannot ignore. I know this may not be the best example, but my point is the best high school team in the country would get destroyed by the worst D1 college team. Our 18 year olds are certainly talented, but when they are lining up against 21/22 year olds that are experienced in the SEC, it's a tough matchup.
These are also 2 teams that haven't beaten us very much over the last several years, and who's players and fans were salivating over the opportunity to do so. By the way, these 2 teams are ranked #2 & #3 in the entire country (both are getting 1st place votes).
I know our youth is not our only issue, and am very concerned and disgusted with not being at least competitive with these teams, but I invite you all to look at the rosters of our SEC west brethren to see how much they are loosing after this year (Dan Mullen has to be looking to parlay this season into a coaching job jump after this year). If we can just improve each week, and get consistent QB play, 2015 looks very bright.
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 8:41 pm to Slick44
Stick this post at the top Chicken
Posted on 10/8/14 at 8:44 pm to Slick44
Very strong post
Posted on 10/8/14 at 8:53 pm to Sampson
Shocking to find reason and fact on The Rant.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 8:54 pm to Slick44
Where did the others end up percentage wise OM and BAMA?
Posted on 10/8/14 at 9:01 pm to Slick44
Great post! Thanks for the insight!
Posted on 10/8/14 at 9:04 pm to Fanofages
Glad you guys like the post. I didn't look into OM or Bama, as we haven't played them yet. There could be injuries and what-not that may change the percentages by the time we play them. It would be interesting to know what their percentages were before going into their game last weekend though.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 9:06 pm to Slick44
This make too much sense.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 9:11 pm to zach.wlkr
Am I wrong? Only talking about freshmen and sophomores. Auburn started 6 on offense and 5 on defense. LSU started 4 on offense and 2 on defense. Auburn is younger than us? I know 2 lbs and a tackle were out as well.
This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 10/8/14 at 9:16 pm to Slick44
interesting take on it all...nice and analytical...I like it!... 
Posted on 10/8/14 at 9:17 pm to Slick44
Nice post.
I also agree with you that all is not lost, all it takes is some better play from the QB.
I still dont think, however, this adequately responds to many of the legitimate criticism levied against CLM.
That said, great effort and it is certainly an interesting statistic.
I also agree with you that all is not lost, all it takes is some better play from the QB.
I still dont think, however, this adequately responds to many of the legitimate criticism levied against CLM.
That said, great effort and it is certainly an interesting statistic.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:06 pm to Bayoufightingtiger
I'm saying starters or contributors who played the majority of the snaps. For LSU and MSU I am using actual birthday listed on the official website. For AU I was using all Fr and So since no birthday was listed, but that can work both ways as many So are 20+ (Lacouture, Hawkins)and some Jrs are 19 (Danielle Hunter). I think AU has more redshirt Fr/So & JuCo guys. LSU has more true Fr & So that are playing playing.
As for LSU vs. AU
On LSU Defense (nickel vs. spread): Adams, White, Robinson, Beckwith, Godcheaux, Hunter
On LSU offense: Harris, Fournette (most carries), Dupree, Pocic, Quinn/Diarse
As for AU, like I said, I'm not as knowledgeable on who's getting the most PT, but I'm using any Fr or So that was projected to start against LSU or players that I remember made big plays. Remember, some of these So for them may be 20+ years old.
AU has some good team doctors and they were able to get their 2 hurt LBs back. Frost & McKinzie played the entire game and played well. They are banged up on the OL, and actually would be starting probably 3 So, but they are playing 4 Jr/Sr and 1 So currently. I'm only seeing 1-2 starting Fr/So on offense, & 3 on defense, plus their K/P who is the same guy. Remember, some of these So, are likely 20+, and true age, not class is the main point of my post.
As for LSU vs. AU
On LSU Defense (nickel vs. spread): Adams, White, Robinson, Beckwith, Godcheaux, Hunter
On LSU offense: Harris, Fournette (most carries), Dupree, Pocic, Quinn/Diarse
As for AU, like I said, I'm not as knowledgeable on who's getting the most PT, but I'm using any Fr or So that was projected to start against LSU or players that I remember made big plays. Remember, some of these So for them may be 20+ years old.
AU has some good team doctors and they were able to get their 2 hurt LBs back. Frost & McKinzie played the entire game and played well. They are banged up on the OL, and actually would be starting probably 3 So, but they are playing 4 Jr/Sr and 1 So currently. I'm only seeing 1-2 starting Fr/So on offense, & 3 on defense, plus their K/P who is the same guy. Remember, some of these So, are likely 20+, and true age, not class is the main point of my post.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:09 pm to Slick44
Nice work thanks
Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:11 pm to Slick44
Damn. Strong work Slick!
Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:26 pm to Slick44
I don't think anyone is debating that we are young at a lot of positions this year. Just that most think we are not doing enough to put ourselves in the best position to win and compete. The offense we run must take about 10 minutes to gameplan against. Are that afraid that our QBs are going to make mistakes because our defense isn't keeping us in any games this year.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:37 pm to Slick44
You do realize that their are juniors and seniors on this O-line correct? 4 of the 5 O-line played and started at one point last year, how did they all of a sudden go into crapper? Porter is senior and can't see the field at center, is that bad development or bad recruiting? Also, explain Jennings to me. A whole year in the program last year and he's complete garbage. Is that bad development or bad recruiting? You have two seniors at tailback who hardly touch the ball anymore and a senior at fullback. 3 senior tightends and one junior that can't catch a ball to save their lives. Is that development or bad recruiting? The reason we are young is because the so called top 10 recruiting classes the past few years have turned out to be crap. Sure some players left, but their are more that have been in the system for 3 or more years and can't contribute.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:16 am to Slick44
Backs up what many in the media and former players have been saying. You'll still have Ranters ignore the point though.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:18 am to Slick44
Good post on this fine morning sir. Have one of these......
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:37 am to Slick44
We aren't really that young on defense. We just aren't any good.
Our OLine has been here for years. Very talented, big, and strong. They get pushed around.
Our RBs are experienced and we have 2 FR, but that is the easiest position to hit the ground running.
Our WRs are young, but they have looked really good.
The one area that youth is really affecting us is QB, but Jennings has been here for almost 2 years and is a Soph. Soph QBs do really well in college football all of the time. He just sin't that good. Harris is really young, but he looked horrible last week.
We lost a lot in the interior DLine, but we have not recruited well or developed the new players well. Miss. St. 2 stars are better than our 4 stars - by a lot.
It is all about coaching. Coaching. Coaching. Whether we are talking about recruiting, player development, scheme, play calling, or game management, it is COACHING.
LSU is young, but we should not be getting blown out. 2 years ago, these teams were horrible. We aren't talking about Alabama's 5 straight #1 recruiting classes.
We all know that Arkansas is going to run for 400+ yards on us. Where were they 2 years ago? We are not getting better at any level. We are getting worse.
No one expected LSU to compete for a championship this year. But, we also didn't expect them to not be able to stop a run up the middle or complete a 12 yard pass. Coaching.
Our OLine has been here for years. Very talented, big, and strong. They get pushed around.
Our RBs are experienced and we have 2 FR, but that is the easiest position to hit the ground running.
Our WRs are young, but they have looked really good.
The one area that youth is really affecting us is QB, but Jennings has been here for almost 2 years and is a Soph. Soph QBs do really well in college football all of the time. He just sin't that good. Harris is really young, but he looked horrible last week.
We lost a lot in the interior DLine, but we have not recruited well or developed the new players well. Miss. St. 2 stars are better than our 4 stars - by a lot.
It is all about coaching. Coaching. Coaching. Whether we are talking about recruiting, player development, scheme, play calling, or game management, it is COACHING.
LSU is young, but we should not be getting blown out. 2 years ago, these teams were horrible. We aren't talking about Alabama's 5 straight #1 recruiting classes.
We all know that Arkansas is going to run for 400+ yards on us. Where were they 2 years ago? We are not getting better at any level. We are getting worse.
No one expected LSU to compete for a championship this year. But, we also didn't expect them to not be able to stop a run up the middle or complete a 12 yard pass. Coaching.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:12 am to Slick44
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Slick44
that does certainly put different perspective on this discussion
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