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Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:53 pm to TheIndulger
It appears that you think Les Miles is a better coach than Nick Saban. Based on that you are retarded and your post means nothing. Thank you.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:53 pm to windhammontanatigers
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Cholly Mac was also successful during his tenure at LSU.
Curious you revere ole Cholly but have no love for Les consdering they both inherited solid programs from national championship winning coaches; they both won more games then anyone before them had in a long time (including the guy who they took over for); they both played in the same division as the greatest coach of their generation; they both, like everybody else, had trouble beating that guy. Y'all ran Mac off and waited a long damn time for a consistent winner.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:56 pm to winston318
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What is your definition of successful? Wins, Championships, or what?
This is up for debate, but some combination of winning percentage, bowl victories, conference/national championships, and/or final ranking.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:56 pm to TheIndulger
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3-5, 3-7, 5-5, 5-4 seasons disagree
You asked for LSU coaches who've had better success than Les Miles.
Paul Dietzel finished 11-0 in 1958 with a NC. Miles hasn't done that.
If you want to go back even further, Edgar Wingard went 10-0 with the 1908 Tigers. LSU has been retroactively awarded a NC on that one, although the school doesn't officially recognize it.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:58 pm to spuds
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It appears that you think Les Miles is a better coach than Nick Saban. Based on that you are retarded and your post means nothing. Thank you.
I asked what coaches had better success. 42 posts later, I have nothing but a bunch of emotional posters like you who can't answer the question.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:00 pm to Jonas
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Bobby Williams at Michigan State says hello
Cool, sup Bobby. Too bad you had zero relevance to what Nick Saban did at LSU.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:00 pm to TheIndulger
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I asked what coaches had better success. 42 posts later, I have nothing but a bunch of emotional posters like you who can't answer the question.
vroom vroom, meep meep
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:01 pm to windhammontanatigers
Also during Charlie Mclendon's coaching career, let's not forget his list of QB's
Mike Hillman
Bert Jones
Paul Lyons
Mike Miley
Steve Ensminger
David Woodley
I would have to say, that's better than Miles' list of QB's.
Mike Hillman
Bert Jones
Paul Lyons
Mike Miley
Steve Ensminger
David Woodley
I would have to say, that's better than Miles' list of QB's.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:02 pm to Godfather1
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Miles hasn't done that.
Neither has Saban.
And we were actually 13-0 in 2011 until the championship game against the #2 team..the '58 Tigers were 10-0 before playing #12 Clemson in the sugar bowl. It's not really a fair comparison.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:02 pm to TheIndulger
The answer is nobody. No other LSU coach has had more success at LSU than Miles has. Happy now?
I am a posi-tiger as much as I can be, but this is pure gold.
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Do you apply this logic to every decision you make in your life?
Like if your car breaks down, do you say "no car has ever gotten the mileage this one has, I will never replace it" and then just sit in the car making vroom vroom sounds pretending like you're going somewhere?
I am a posi-tiger as much as I can be, but this is pure gold.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:02 pm to bosco107
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I would have to say, that's better than Miles' list of QB's.
Now, I'm not arguing that
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:06 pm to TheIndulger
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Neither has Saban.
Who said anything about Saban?
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And we were actually 13-0 in 2011 until the championship game against the #2 team
And Miles couldn't finish.
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the '58 Tigers were 10-0 before playing #12 Clemson in the sugar bowl.
And Dietzel did finish.
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It's not really a fair comparison.
It's absolutely fair.
Don't go moving the goalposts just because you don't like the answers you're getting.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:07 pm to TheIndulger
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And we were actually 13-0 in 2011 until the championship game against the #2 team..
Now who's cherrypicking?
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:12 pm to TheIndulger
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And we were actually 13-0 in 2011 until the championship game against the #2 team.
But the season was 14 games
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:13 pm to Godfather1
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It's absolutely fair. Don't go moving the goalposts just because you don't like the answers you're getting.
Eh, I see your point, but it's up for debate. Dietzel didn't have nearly as many hurdles to jump that season.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:14 pm to TheIndulger
Who coached that bama team?
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:16 pm to TheIndulger
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Eh, I see your point, but it's up for debate. Dietzel didn't have nearly as many hurdles to jump that season.
Not his fault.
He had his successes within the constraints of the system in place at the time. So has Miles.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:23 pm to Godfather1
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Who said anything about Saban?
quite a few actually
posted by spuds
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It appears that you think Les Miles is a better coach than Nick Saban. Based on that you are retarded and your post means nothing. Thank you.
posted by the godfather
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2005-2007 were teams filled with players that actually played for Saban
posted by LSUballs
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Coaches who have had the opportunity since Saban built the program. Who are they?
posted by RunDMC
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Nick Saban. He took a program that had not won more than 8 games in 20 years and turned them into a National Champion. Les Miles never did that at Oklahoma State. There
Everyone on this board who dislikes Miles hails Saban, as well as contributing Miles' successes to him. I figured you had the same mindset. I could be wrong.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:29 pm to TheIndulger
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Who said anything about Saban?
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quite a few actually
Not me.
You asked a question. I answered it.
One could conceivably make the case that Saban's 13-1 season was more successful than Miles' 13-1 season based on the fact that it ended with a NC...but I won't.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 4:30 pm
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