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LSU can't win each and every game.
Posted on 11/21/15 at 4:09 am
Posted on 11/21/15 at 4:09 am
Why do folks expect that? So many factors go into every game, facing different strengths in different opponents...and not middle tier opponents but top tier opponents.
I think the frustration comes with the coaching staff continually failing to make adjustments if the game is not going LSU's way. We've all (at first) thought that there would be second half adjustments because the game plan just wasn't working in the first half. But no, the team comes out with the same ole plan that was getting LSU beat in the first half. That happens time after time after time and by now it's expected there will be little or no adjustments in the game.
I and others have said it over and over, it's not that LSU lost a game it's HOW they lose it.
But, still, not every game will be won, adjustments or not. The frustrations with CLM and the staff is their inability (unwillingness?) to change within a game situation. (See NC game of 1/9/12 as a classic example...still unbelievable).
So again, it's not that LSU loses, that would be one thing, but it's HOW they lose with top-tier players that has fans frustrated.
I think the frustration comes with the coaching staff continually failing to make adjustments if the game is not going LSU's way. We've all (at first) thought that there would be second half adjustments because the game plan just wasn't working in the first half. But no, the team comes out with the same ole plan that was getting LSU beat in the first half. That happens time after time after time and by now it's expected there will be little or no adjustments in the game.
I and others have said it over and over, it's not that LSU lost a game it's HOW they lose it.
But, still, not every game will be won, adjustments or not. The frustrations with CLM and the staff is their inability (unwillingness?) to change within a game situation. (See NC game of 1/9/12 as a classic example...still unbelievable).
So again, it's not that LSU loses, that would be one thing, but it's HOW they lose with top-tier players that has fans frustrated.
This post was edited on 11/21/15 at 4:11 am
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Posted on 11/21/15 at 4:35 am to beejon
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I and others have said it over and over, it's not that LSU lost a game it's HOW they lose it.
Why not! There are just as many that say LSU shouldn't lose at all. They say that if we don't win a National Championship every other year that the coaches and players are failures. The program having a 75 to 80% winning percentage over the past ten years isn't god damn good enough. We should never lose to teams like Arkansas or Ole Miss. And only to bama every other year.
Miles is an loser, Alleva is a spineless idiot, Cameron and Steele aren't fit to coach pee wee football, Mike the Tiger is a giant puss because he won't get in his trailer and show up for games. We deserve better. This is the 21st century. We don't care how bad things may have been 20, 30 or 40 years ago. It's our birthright to be a top ten program!
Posted on 11/21/15 at 5:09 am to earl keese
Quit posting. Thanks!
Posted on 11/21/15 at 5:21 am to beejon
It is the fact that we are digressing even though our talent is holding steady
Look at our history vs Arkansas from 2011-2015
2011 - LSU won with a much better team
2012 - LSU won a game that was too close for the talent gap
2013 - LSU wins with a miracle last second drive from a backup QB again with a vastly more talented team
2014 - LSU loses and gives Arkansas and Bert their first SEC win (again LSU is more talented) and it was a shutout
2015 - LSU loses at night at home to an inferior Arkansas who lost to Toledo and Texas Tech
Does it seem like we are trending in the right direction?
Spoiler*****
No we aren't
Look at our history vs Arkansas from 2011-2015
2011 - LSU won with a much better team
2012 - LSU won a game that was too close for the talent gap
2013 - LSU wins with a miracle last second drive from a backup QB again with a vastly more talented team
2014 - LSU loses and gives Arkansas and Bert their first SEC win (again LSU is more talented) and it was a shutout
2015 - LSU loses at night at home to an inferior Arkansas who lost to Toledo and Texas Tech
Does it seem like we are trending in the right direction?
Spoiler*****
No we aren't
Posted on 11/21/15 at 5:33 am to beejon
Anyone that knows the game and or played it think your frustration is ignorant bullshite. If you are frustrated now, then God help you when LSU is wallowing in UT and Tennessee land which is where LSU is headed if Miles gets run.
Posted on 11/21/15 at 5:56 am to TGFN57
UT's replacements after PF were the issue....LSU's replacement will not be
Posted on 11/21/15 at 6:06 am to beejon
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Why do folks expect that?
Look at our SEC record the last 4 years. We are middle of the pack in the SEC west. Do we wait 4 more years?
We are not doing bad, we are not doing good. Are we suppose to be happy?
Posted on 11/21/15 at 6:06 am to 11thACR
What makes you certain of this?
Posted on 11/21/15 at 6:27 am to beejon
LSU is an elite proud program stock piled with Talent.
When the Tigers receive beat downs from the Likes of a 4 loss (should be 5) to Arkansas,
we hurt and mad...
That should never ever happen at home!!
Freaking Never!
When the Tigers receive beat downs from the Likes of a 4 loss (should be 5) to Arkansas,
we hurt and mad...
That should never ever happen at home!!
Freaking Never!
Posted on 11/21/15 at 6:38 am to beejon
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I think the frustration comes with the coaching staff continually failing to make adjustments if the game is not going LSU's way.
This is just a myth. There have been a handful of years in which this appeared to be true because we were so limited at QB. Against Bama and Arkansas this year we certainly made adjustments. Most fans are too benighted to see it. This is be ause most fans are fools who think "adjustments" means switching from plays that don't work to plays that do work.
If Miles switches from run-heavy on early downs to a lot of play action, and neither works, many on here will post, "We keep pounding the ball in I-form!"
Posted on 11/21/15 at 6:45 am to ApexTiger
To the guy that said LSU should never lose at home. Alabama lost at home and struggled to win against Tennessee at home. Shite happens.
Posted on 11/21/15 at 6:48 am to Trojans56
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To the guy that said LSU should never lose at home. Alabama lost at home and struggled to win against Tennessee at home. Shite happens.
Bama is likely to win their 97th National Championship this year
So, every-time I turn on my TV, I see Alabama, Playoff, Vegas odds, Heisman for Henry...
I don't see LSU at all, just the chicken bowl..against a team that will love beating us...because we're LSU from the SEC
"Nick got it turned around after that loss at home"
Case closed
Posted on 11/21/15 at 7:02 am to TGFN57
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UT and Tennessee land which is where LSU is headed if Miles gets run.
So you're just going to ignore Florida, FSU, Ohio State? Getting rid of Mes doesn't banish us to UT land.
Posted on 11/21/15 at 7:07 am to beejon
We got decimated two weeks in a row. That should not happen to a team with LSU's talent.
Posted on 11/21/15 at 7:10 am to beejon
quote:They expect a reasonable chance at competing for a National Championship. As long as Miles remains, there is no possibility of that. You can no longer deny the pattern.
Why do folks expect that?
Posted on 11/21/15 at 7:32 am to ApexTiger
Apex, I have asked many like you and they never answer. So maybe you can tell us. What does nick sabans arse hole taste like?
Posted on 11/21/15 at 8:09 am to Penrod
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This is just a myth. There have been a handful of years in which this appeared to be true because we were so limited at QB.
Wait, LSU is limited at qb? You mean to tell me that LSU has been limited at qb for 6.5 of the last 8 years? That's 5 different qb's and we've only had one of them look good for a season and a half. That's a coaching issue. Whether it's recruiting, philosophy, or development, that's all on the coach. Our game plan for the 6.5 of the last 8 years has been to hide our qb. Les Miles doesn't get it, but that will get you fired.
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Against Bama and Arkansas this year we certainly made adjustments.
There have been a few minor adjustments, but LSU has looked so gawd-awful at it it makes you wonder just what in the hell they have been practicing since the Spring. Seriously, if LSU isn't in the i formation with one or more tight ends we can hardly line up and execute a play. It was embarrassing to watch the ineptitude last week on a couple of those drives after being down by three scores at home to Arkansas.
Posted on 11/21/15 at 8:20 am to earl keese
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It's our birthright to be a top ten program!
That's what it sounds like. I still have hope.
Let the damn season play out before everyone starts grabbing their pitchforks and torches.
Posted on 11/21/15 at 8:25 am to CoachChappy
So tell us chappy, which of the schools you mentioned fired a coach that won a NC,played for another and won a couple of conference titles and won nearly 80% of their games?
Posted on 11/21/15 at 8:29 am to beejon
They can compete and not look totally lost though
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