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re: LSU Basketball Week in Review WE 3/1/15
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:16 am to pellietigersaint
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:16 am to pellietigersaint
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I'd almost be OK with the 5 seed. We'd get a bottom feeder team.
Don't be. Getting a win over a bottom-feeder SEC team is not going to do much, if anything, for LSU's "at large" resume. All it would really do is give LSU one final opportunity for another "bad" loss.
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It would give us a chance to log a win and acclimate to the depth perception issues that can rear its head when playing in a large arena.
Depth perception shouldn't be an issue. The tournament is being played in a basketball arena in Nashville not a football stadium like the Georgia Dome or Superdome. In fact, UK, Tenn. and Ark. all have arenas that hold as much, if not more than Bridgestone Arena
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:19 am to TigersFan2087
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Portis didn't impress me much against UK. Even if it was UK, M&M stood toe-to-toe with those guys.
Portis is legit. He had a solid game against UK.
M&M also played at home with a huge crowd vs at Rupp. Big diff. Not saying we can't beat the piggies but Portis is no slouch
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:29 am to SouthOfSouth
Has anyone else noticed Musselman has had a more visible presence on the sideline recently? I like
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:32 am to tigerbait2010
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Has anyone else noticed Musselman has had a more visible presence on the sideline recently? I like
Absolutely noticed. I was talking with the people around me about that Saturday. He was up right next to Jones out of his seat barking instructions at players. As long as the officials don't get on him about it, I love it.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:37 am to SouthOfSouth
Yeah, there was some strange body language and interaction with Musselman and Jones early on. I find it difficult to believe LSU is coincidentally playing its best ball since he's been a bigger presence.
It's really encouraging, as he's a wealth of knowledge to help mentor Jones. You think he hangs around one more season? I can't help but feel he came to LSU on the premise he knew Jones was about to clean up on the recruiting trail. his stock would rise a lot being around the program with all of our talent next season
It's really encouraging, as he's a wealth of knowledge to help mentor Jones. You think he hangs around one more season? I can't help but feel he came to LSU on the premise he knew Jones was about to clean up on the recruiting trail. his stock would rise a lot being around the program with all of our talent next season
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:40 am to tigerbait2010
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It's really encouraging, as he's a wealth of knowledge to help mentor Jones. You think he hangs around one more season? I can't help but feel he came to LSU on the premise he knew Jones was about to clean up on the recruiting trail. his stock would rise a lot being around the program with all of our talent next season
Unless a HC job or an NBA job becomes available to him, he probably knows LSU is in great position to make a serious run next year. I don't know why he'd leave that.... Unless there are issues between him and Jones, which I just can't believe.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:45 am to SouthOfSouth
Yeah, I was skeptical of those rumors given Jones seems so laid back. jones seems like a guy who will give himself an honest assessment of his coaching abilities, and would be willing to learn from an ex-two time NBA head coach. it's a funny thought that nobody has more significant head coaching experience than Musselman in the SEC outside of Cal and Donovan. he was one hell of a coup
one more question: I'm sure you get pestered with this question, but do you see at least one of Mickey and Martin coming back? the word early on sounded like Martin was gone regardless due to family finances
one more question: I'm sure you get pestered with this question, but do you see at least one of Mickey and Martin coming back? the word early on sounded like Martin was gone regardless due to family finances
Posted on 3/2/15 at 10:03 am to tigerbait2010
Man, really hope LSU continues to run through Martin in the post and limits Mickey's ISO plays. He is so much better as a catch and score (or dunk) type of guy than when he tries to make his own shot happen.
That being said, anyone down for the bumping of the TQ hate threads we had around here 365 days ago. Hopefully his improvement opens eyes of fans that sometimes it takes more than a season to figure it out.
That being said, anyone down for the bumping of the TQ hate threads we had around here 365 days ago. Hopefully his improvement opens eyes of fans that sometimes it takes more than a season to figure it out.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 10:16 am to tigerbait2010
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one more question: I'm sure you get pestered with this question, but do you see at least one of Mickey and Martin coming back? the word early on sounded like Martin was gone regardless due to family finances
Martin's family could certainly use the money, but they have been very smart in listening to the right people and understanding the difference between a quick dollar and the right financial move. That being said, he has prototypical size and athletic ability that makes him a great candidate for early entry to the NBA draft.
For Mickey, I think a lot of people are still worried about his size. Obviously that's not something that he can change over the next year, but he could add some weight (muscle) and become a much more marketable small 4. His turnovers have to have a lot of NBA scouts worried about trying to move him to the 3. He could really use another year of proving he can handle pressure and handle the ball better.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 10:30 am to SouthOfSouth
On Martin, let's not kid ourselves... he's playing himself into a firm 1st rounder. He continues his tear through March and well, just enjoy him this season.
Mickey is going the complete opposite way but he wants out way worse than Jarell. Maybe something changes and he looks at guys like JOB (or even his brother in football) and realizes coming back won't hurt at all.
Mickey is going the complete opposite way but he wants out way worse than Jarell. Maybe something changes and he looks at guys like JOB (or even his brother in football) and realizes coming back won't hurt at all.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 10:37 am to Coach D
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On Martin, let's not kid ourselves... he's playing himself into a firm 1st rounder. He continues his tear through March and well, just enjoy him this season.
Totally agree. Simply putting good advise brought him back to LSU this year, but I don't expect him to be here next year.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 10:44 am to Howyouluhdat
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Portis is legit. He had a solid game against UK. M&M also played at home with a huge crowd vs at Rupp. Big diff. Not saying we can't beat the piggies but Portis is no slouch
Portis will have a lot of points working against Mickey IMO
Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:10 am to SouthOfSouth
I'll give credit to Johnny, maybe his even keel approach of not getting to high or low after wins and losses is paying off
Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:14 am to Coach D
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Mickey is going the complete opposite way but he wants out way worse than Jarell. Maybe something changes and he looks at guys like JOB (or even his brother in football) and realizes coming back won't hurt at all.
The bottom line is what does he have to gain (in terms of draft stock) by coming back to LSU? He's not going to grow two inches just by coming back. Though he has struggled recently, his numbers for the season are great. Can he really improve on them to a significant degree? With Simmons coming in his role on LSU' team is not going to change. Simmons will be asked to do what Martin is doing now. It's not like Mickey is going to be asked to step out and play on the wing more. He could improve his back to the basket game, but is doing so really going to skyrocket his draft stock? I doubt it.
In any sport the decision to stay in school vs. declaring for the draft early essentially comes down to one question: What do I gain by coming back? If he really likes LSU and playing for this team than its an easy decision. But if the decision is solely based upon potentially becoming a NBA basketball player, I just don't see a huge benefit in him returning for another year.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:59 am to Alt26
To gain:
Prove he can score and make others better on the offensive end. Multiple scouts talked to me about his inconsistent jumper and say it isn't something they consider a plus for him. Couple that with turnovers because he can't handle a double team or really pass off of a move. Once he starts his motion to attempt to score, he can not pass or adjust at all.
Coming back means a year to work on and prove that he can:
1) score in low post (other than dish offs)
2) make passes out the post / make others better
3) defend the post 1v1
4) hit mid range shots more consistently
All things he'll get an opportunity to do regardless of who comes in. If he improves across the board, he's got a shot at 1st round (guaranteed money) or early 2nd (which often means a bad team and more opportunities to work on game and prove himself at that level).
Prove he can score and make others better on the offensive end. Multiple scouts talked to me about his inconsistent jumper and say it isn't something they consider a plus for him. Couple that with turnovers because he can't handle a double team or really pass off of a move. Once he starts his motion to attempt to score, he can not pass or adjust at all.
Coming back means a year to work on and prove that he can:
1) score in low post (other than dish offs)
2) make passes out the post / make others better
3) defend the post 1v1
4) hit mid range shots more consistently
All things he'll get an opportunity to do regardless of who comes in. If he improves across the board, he's got a shot at 1st round (guaranteed money) or early 2nd (which often means a bad team and more opportunities to work on game and prove himself at that level).
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:00 pm to Coach D
He really needs to work on his body off-season IMO. A little muscle could really go a long way in helping him defend larger PF's.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:13 pm to Coach D
quote:I agree with number 2, but I think he has shown a very consistent jump shot. It hasn't fallen of late, but his whole game is down possibly due to exhaustion. As far as the post game is concerned, I am not sure that NBA scouts value that in a 6'8" power forward who is expected to rebound and defend primarily.
Coming back means a year to work on and prove that he can:
1) score in low post (other than dish offs)
2) make passes out the post / make others better
3) defend the post 1v1
4) hit mid range shots more consistently
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:22 pm to mmcgrath
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I agree with number 2, but I think he has shown a very consistent jump shot. It hasn't fallen of late, but his whole game is down possibly due to exhaustion. As far as the post game is concerned, I am not sure that NBA scouts value that in a 6'8" power forward who is expected to rebound and defend primarily.
Sure, we like his sorta efficient jump shot but it's not there yet for NBA.
If you wanna call 35 mpg with 2 games a week fatigue. How is he gonna handle just 12-14 mpg 4 times a week + travel? That's a horrid excuse when it comes to guys being ready for the NBA.
He turns it over a ton which makes his few times he scores in post up situations just not relevant. And he can not guard 1v1 in the post yet (too weak, needs another year).
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:24 pm to Coach D
Jordan Mickey has 36 assists and 94 turnovers this year. 
Has to get better.
Has to get better.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:37 pm to SouthOfSouth
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Jordan Mickey has 36 assists and 94 turnovers this year.
Has to get better.
Pretty sure I've said this every week in your WE Reviews. Lol
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