re: LSU baseball commit Riley Pint hit 100 in a game today

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Coaching in a MLB organization will fix the control and delivery issues.

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Marlins drafted the hardest throwing high school pitcher ever 2 years ago, and his control is god awful still.

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his life in the Minors like Zach Lee! Kids from High School do not make it in MLB!

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how could you possibly think this is accurate?

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High school senior players eventually drafted by an MLB team: About one in 200, or 0.5 percent. Drafted baseball players almost always go to a minor league team. These teams abound; there are over 150 of them, compared to 30 in the majors. The big leagues have 750 players, yet the 2004 draft alone took 1,500. Hence some estimate that only one in 33 minor leaguers ever makes it to the pros. If that's correct, the chance of a high school player making the big leagues is one in 6,600, or 0.015 percent. That's roughly the chance of a thief guessing your PIN number on the first try.

This is from 2012 but I think the correlation is still there. The number of MLB players on 40-man rosters that went to college does actually outnumber payers that went straight from high school at almost every position. They had the same number at one position.

Not saying that poster was right, but there has been a trend of more college players finding their way to the big show.

Baseball America

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here is an article I found that computes the percentages of players selected in the 1st round.

College - 75% make it to major league roster
High School - 58% make it to major league roster

He didn't address the likelihood of kids making it out of high school. He said, unqualified, that "kids from High School do not make it in MLB."

Which isn't true, not by any stretch of the imagination. And the fact that he said it reflects on his knowledge of baseball at the professional level.

Let's not try to parse the comparrative rates at which players from high school, juco, or college make it to the show. That's not the issue at hand.

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It falls under the category of Completely Miscellaneous Historical Speculation but Riley Pint probably did something that no high school player, and indeed, likely no baseball player period, has ever done before.

The 6-foot-4, 190-pound senior at St. Thomas Aquinas High School in suburban Kansas City hit a grand slam home run and touched 99 mph on the radar gun. In the first inning of his game of the year. Think about the chances of that happening!

The game was played under seasonally comfortable conditions with temperatures in the low 70's with a stiff breeze blowing out to left field and just hours before a cold front hammered Kansas City. The hype around Pint in the area was such that the game was being televised by a local sports cable station. The hype surrounding Pint in the scouting community was such that there were an estimated 65-75 scouts in attendance, including the scouting directors for the Reds (second overall pick) and Braves (third). The Phillies, who have the first overall pick, had cross checkers at the field.

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Pint's three innings on the mound were nothing short of spectacular. He pitched at 95-99 mph in the first inning and settled in at 93-96 for the next two frames. Pint struggled at times last summer to throw strikes with his fastball but he seemed to be throwing with less effort and more compact mechanics this time out. He did miss high a couple of times but was generally pounding his fastball downhill to the lower quadrants of the zone well. His arm action in particular seemed to be a bit more compact than when I've previously seen him and it worked very well for him.

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The biggest revelation of the outing, however, was Pint's changeup, which he threw 8-10 times almost all at 88 mph. Throwing an 88 mph changeup to high school hitters seems at the surface to be doing them a big favor but the movement and location on the pitch made it no favor. Pint manipulated the grip to where he alternately got both standard changeup fade and run but other times created cutter/slider type action on the pitch. I was seated a bit off to the side and had to ask a friend directly behind the plate if it was indeed a slider. He said definitely not, that it was a changeup.

Pint's curveball, which he threw maybe 6 times and primarily in strikeout counts, was a third pitch that showed plus at times. It was mostly 83 mph from a consistent release point and arm speed as his fastball and had big hard biting action about half the time.

The wildness that plagued Pint at times during the summer wasn't there. He had some issues finding his curveball release point warming up in the bullpen but threw some extras and found it by the time he went to the mound. He didn't walk a hitter in the game while striking out seven.

Overall, it was as impressive a pitching performance as I ever recall seeing for a high school pitcher, especially considering the time of year and location. It brought to mind Josh Beckett in high school, when Beckett would regularly throw 94-96 with an unhittable curveball. Except Beckett would always throw two or three changeups between innings to show scouts that the pitch was there. Pint went out and showed that changeup in the game with outstanding effect.

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He makes he argument that NO team should go with a HS kid in the first round, period. As if 58% success rate is bad. One thing he didn't address were the HS kids taken in the first round who don't sign. It happens. And then there was the comparison of WAR which was very close.

But who has ever said that it's not a slightly bigger risk taking a HS kid? Its 3 less years of experience and data for a scout/GM to analyze. And they get a better read because you can see how players do against better competition. In HS, you have to go solely on intangibles instead of results where in college you can have two guys who throw equally hard, have equally good off speed, equal in size and age but one can stand out over the other.

Mainieri is taking a flyer on him like he did Gausman. Nothing to see here.

Yea cause Andrew jones and Griffey Jr were trash.