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re: LSU baseball and upcoming MLB draft
Posted on 4/26/16 at 12:25 pm to Tigahs1977
Posted on 4/26/16 at 12:25 pm to Tigahs1977
Deichmann and CPM don't get along I can believe
KRob and CPM don't get along- I'm not sure about
He got a good bit of playing time as s freshman
As a sophomore, he got replaced because too many bats were hot
And someone said he was injured last year. I don't remember where I heard that tho
KRob and CPM don't get along- I'm not sure about
He got a good bit of playing time as s freshman
As a sophomore, he got replaced because too many bats were hot
And someone said he was injured last year. I don't remember where I heard that tho
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 12:35 pm to LSURussian
I was wondering where you'd been! 
Posted on 4/26/16 at 12:42 pm to upgrade
Deichmann has been pissed ever since PM said he'd never bunted in his life. KRob was ready to leave since his freshman year. Pretty well known that he threw a fit toward the end of that season.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 12:42 pm to Tigahs1977
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75-89% gone: Newman, Robertson
Robertson does not project well at the next level. He's had a great year, but he has no plus power, doesn't have blazing speed, and does not have the range to play short stop at the next level. Robertson will not be drafted early enough to warrant leaving. He will be a very late pick, if at all. Think about Raph Rhymes. Rhymes had a little more pop than Kramer ever has, but sprayed hits all over the place. After his junior season in which he batted .360, he was drafted in the 40th round. Even after his amazing 2012 season, he still only went in the 15th round. I have no doubt Kramer may not like playing for Mainieri, but he'd be pretty foolish to leave after this year
This post was edited on 4/26/16 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 4/26/16 at 12:54 pm to Tigahs1977
quote:I certainly agree with that. I've talked to him a couple of times and he comes across as being really intense.
Not to mention Greg Sr is one of the most vocal ball parents I've ever met in my life..
I wasn't implying you were wrong about KR and GD but the way you wrote it I thought they had tweeted something or you had read something about them wanting to leave BR in an article somewhere. Thanks for the information.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 12:56 pm to Tigahs1977
They can dislike the coach but rarely do players jet in spite of the coach. If he hated him that much they would have transferred to JuCO and been eligible for the draft much quicker.
As much as they "hate" PM I'm sure they love their teammates & playing at LSU. Robertson doesn't have much of a pro future and Deichmann would benefit heavily from playing as a JR and I think they both know that.
As much as they "hate" PM I'm sure they love their teammates & playing at LSU. Robertson doesn't have much of a pro future and Deichmann would benefit heavily from playing as a JR and I think they both know that.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 12:59 pm to Lester Earl
I agree, Lester.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:15 pm to Lester Earl
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Rarely do players jet in spite of the coach
As much as fans want this to be true, it's more common than you think.
I know for a 100% fact that Tyler Moore left because of Paul Mainieri. He could have been Mr Irrelevant in the 14 draft, and he would have left LSU after his junior season. All I'm saying is my interaction with the players and their families give off the same vibe as the Tyler Moore departure. That's all. Yes it's speculation but it's not unfounded.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:35 pm to Tigahs1977
just because Tyler Moore was going to leave doesnt mean it is more common than i think. Tyler Moore also felt he was "done wrong" by PM regarding playing time.
Robertson has played a ton through 3 years when he really hasnt warranted it before this year. PM has made it a point to get Greg's bat in the lineup despite Greg being below average at every position he has played. Coach really hasn't done them wrong in terms of playing time like he did with Tyler Moore.
I think there are other players that didnt necessarily like PM, and they left, but it was more in terms of playing time than outright hatred for the coach. That happens though when you recruit as many great players as LSU does. Im not even a huge PM fan, but i dont believe we have players ready to just leave despite their best interests.
I mena Robertson has a hot gf in baton rouge, he can start at SS for one of the best college programs in the nation next year, play with his best friends, but that he is going to go ride busses in the minors when his pro prospects are marginal at best? And you are telling me you know that right now? Sorry, not buying it
Robertson has played a ton through 3 years when he really hasnt warranted it before this year. PM has made it a point to get Greg's bat in the lineup despite Greg being below average at every position he has played. Coach really hasn't done them wrong in terms of playing time like he did with Tyler Moore.
I think there are other players that didnt necessarily like PM, and they left, but it was more in terms of playing time than outright hatred for the coach. That happens though when you recruit as many great players as LSU does. Im not even a huge PM fan, but i dont believe we have players ready to just leave despite their best interests.
I mena Robertson has a hot gf in baton rouge, he can start at SS for one of the best college programs in the nation next year, play with his best friends, but that he is going to go ride busses in the minors when his pro prospects are marginal at best? And you are telling me you know that right now? Sorry, not buying it
Posted on 4/26/16 at 2:06 pm to Lester Earl
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Robertson has a hot gf in baton rouge, he can start at SS for one of the best college programs in the nation next year, play with his best friends, but that he is going to go ride buses in the minors when his pro prospects are marginal at best?
21 year-olds often don't have the wisdom to put things like that in perspective.
They tend to be impulsive and eager to move on to the next stage in adult life, even when it is not ideal for them.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 2:27 pm to 81Tiger
Eh, i dont think you're giving them enough credit. LSU has been pretty good with being able to retain kids that should come back for a 4th year. Kid is a light hitting SS with a low projection. Reminds me of Austin Nola.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 2:30 pm to Lester Earl
I'm not seeing where you dont see that Kramer does have pro prospect abilities. He's got above average field & run, solid arm and is looking like he can hit for average. there have been many drafted and succeeded with much less. No he doesnt have much pop, but neither do most middle infielders not named Carlos Correa or Jason Kipnis... He will be drafted to play second base and he will succeed as a fielder and if he can hit around .280 he has a chance to make it far. I wont bore you with the minor leaguers who have made it despite having little to no tools. Which by the way you are vastly over exaggerating his lack of... he's the starting shortstop at LSU, already making him better than a quarter of the infielders toiling in the minors.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 2:38 pm to Tigahs1977
Pretty sure he was on some D1 top prospect list last summer...
Posted on 4/26/16 at 2:44 pm to Tigahs1977
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'm not seeing where you dont see that Kramer does have pro prospect abilities.
pro prospects as in what?
Do I think he'll ever play in the Majors? chances are slim. As a MLB'er, at the least, you need 1 elite tool to even make a bench. He doesn't have one. He runs well but he's not a blazer. He has a decent glove, but he isnt even Darwin Barney or Austin Nola for that matter. He is tiny and that is going to hurt him.
do I think he'll be drafted and play in the minors? sure. He's still considered a pro player.
it's not hating, but he wreaks of a 4 year player. Get another year of SS under his belt and up his value. Add some weight. Drive the ball better. Prove his year at the plate isnt a fluke.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 2:54 pm to Lester Earl
You're right. There IS a difference between an MLB player and pro/minor league player.
But, kids still leave college when they're drafted, even if they aren't drafted in high rounds.
Some truly aspire to be MLBers and some simply want to get out of school to wear their big boy pants.
Kramer was 268 in one preseason prospect list, which would convert to about a 9-10th round pick.
But, kids still leave college when they're drafted, even if they aren't drafted in high rounds.
Some truly aspire to be MLBers and some simply want to get out of school to wear their big boy pants.
Kramer was 268 in one preseason prospect list, which would convert to about a 9-10th round pick.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 2:58 pm to 81Tiger
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Some truly aspire to be MLBers and some simply want to get out of school to wear their big boy pants.
or some generally capitalize on whatever leverage they have, get the max signing bonus possible, play ball for a few years, then start their careers outside of baseball.
quote:
Kramer was 268 in one preseason prospect list, which would convert to about a 9-10th round pick.
you have a link to that list?
This post was edited on 4/26/16 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 4/26/16 at 3:05 pm to Tigahs1977
Agreed...They said the same thing about Brian Dozier and I remember playing against him in college. Now he is an all star 2b and one that hits for power
Posted on 4/26/16 at 3:07 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 4/26/16 at 3:13 pm to 81Tiger
quote:Since that was pre-season, I wonder if their play so far has helped or hurt their draft prospects?
Morbid posted KR as 268 and Deichmann at 174.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 3:18 pm to 81Tiger
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81Tiger
you know that list is only the top 300 COLLEGE players right? bottom of the top 300 college prospects is not a top 10 round pick. it's more like a 25-30 round pick
This post was edited on 4/26/16 at 3:20 pm
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