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LSU 9th in the nation in time of possession

Posted on 1/5/15 at 6:39 am
Posted by easy money
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 6:39 am
Even after a not so normal 23 minutes of possession against Notre Dame. 2 one play possessions and a special teams td drastically affected that. The tigers averaged 32:58 per game. The only games where LSU's opponent had the ball more were: Miss State, Auburn, Arkansas, and Notre Dame. Three of the four were arguably LSU's worst defensive performances.

Texas A&M ranked 125th averaging a little more than 26 minutes per game in 2014. I expect them do be much improved, but that's a lot of time on defense for the overwhelmingly worst scoring defense in the SEC west.
This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 6:40 am
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 6:43 am to
More proof that TOP is a pretty useless stat
Posted by easy money
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 6:45 am to
Yeah, LSU 8-1 when they win time of possession (1 loss against Bama in OT) and 0-4 when they lose time of possession. You're right, useless.
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 6:46 am to
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More proof that TOP is a pretty useless stat


What? Why wouldn't you want that type of ball control keeping your defense off the field?

The problem with lsu is that thry could control the clock but not finish drives.
This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 6:47 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 6:47 am to
The Notre Dame game shows why TOP is huge IMO. we averaged almost double the yards per play as ND. Since they kept the ball from us for much longer, they were able to win despite that.

TOP is the same reason we had a chance against Bama this year, even with our pedestrian offense.
This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 6:49 am
Posted by easy money
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 6:48 am to
Redzone efficiency has been a major issue.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 6:49 am to
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Redzone efficiency has been a major issue.


Lsu was painful in the redzone
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 6:50 am to
Whether you score a td in a minute or 3 minutes, as long as you keep doing it, it doesnt matter how long you possess the ball. Redzone offense, yards per play, and efficiency are much more important.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 6:53 am to
Just ignore the stats and dig your feet in. TOP is huge for most teams not named Oregon.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 6:54 am to
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Whether you score a td in a minute or 3 minutes, as long as you keep doing it, it doesnt matter how long you possess the ball. Redzone offense, yards per play, and efficiency are much more important.


You are literally the first person I've ever seen say TOP is useless. And I totally disagree
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 6:54 am to
When you run as much as we do, this will be a stat in which we excel.
Posted by jivy26
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 7:01 am to
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LSU 9th in the nation in time of possession


But we are 75th in offense. We hold the ball all day because we can't put it in the end zone.
Posted by easy money
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 7:06 am to
We do it because we can do it and based on our qb play, we have to, unfortunately. However, possessing the ball is advantageous for both the offense and defense and it's a big reason why LSU was able to win games this season. If A&M had the ball much longer or Ole Miss, we could have lost those games as well. We almost got Chavised in both of those games.
Posted by etm512
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 7:31 am to
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The problem with lsu is that thry could control the clock but not finish drives.


This. You can hold the ball all you want but if you don't finish drives, THAT is when it becomes a useless stat. Have to look at the entire body of work
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 7:33 am to
The problem is we don't score enough touchdowns.

Harris is the one to get us the TDs inside the 20 providing legit dual threat passing and running IMO. Just like when he had the streak of like 9 straight possessions of a TD.
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 7:34 am to
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More proof that TOP is a pretty useless stat



I disagree.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 7:38 am to
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What? Why wouldn't you want that type of ball control keeping your defense off the field?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 7:40 am to
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What? Why wouldn't you want that type of ball control keeping your defense off the field? 


Well if you have a great offense, you'd want the ball in their hands as much as possible.

An 80 yard td isn't ever a bad thing. A quick strike offense isn't a bad thing

Saints had a good running attack this year, finished 3rd in 3rd down %, yet finished 18th in TOP. Last year, Saints finished 1st with a worse rushing attack. A dominant defense impacts this stat a lot
This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 7:45 am
Posted by Fratigerguy
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 7:45 am to
It is if you don't want your defense out there 90 plays a game.

It's pretty simple. The less time your opponent has the ball, the fewer plays they can run. When they run fewer plays, they don't rack up as many yards. This is one, I repeat one, of the reasons we were #1 in total defense in the SEC this year. It's why A&M won't be anywhere near that unless Sumlin changes philosophy a bit.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 9:03 am to
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The less time your opponent has the ball, the fewer plays they can run


And if you have a dominant offense, wouldn't you want to run more plays?

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It's pretty simple. The less time your opponent has the ball, the fewer plays they can run. When they run fewer plays, they don't rack up as many yards.


I understand the concept just fine. By the same logic, if your offense has an advantage over the defense, wouldn't you want an explosive offense maximizing the amount of plays they can run.

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It is if you don't want your defense out there 90 plays a game.



If this is in response to the 80 yard td comment
This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 9:07 am
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