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Love hearing Gordy break down the film

Posted on 9/8/16 at 9:33 am
Posted by HoopyD
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 9:33 am
Last night, Gordy did a great job of recapping the Wisconsin game. Pretty much confirmed what everyone felt in that the offensive game plan could not have been worse. LSU has played a Wilcox coached defense several times in the past and the Wisconsin game plan followed every previous Wilcox coached game plan. No surprises or schematic changes. LSU had advantages all over the field in personnel and alignment and still chose to run into the teeth of the Wisconsin defense and "play the game in a phone booth".

At the start of the third quarter, LSU finally saw the light and went spread. It drew the safeties out of the box and unclogged things in alignment for the offense. Unfortunately, LSU still ran to the disadvantages in the alignment. First play was read option but it's really no option at all. It's a design give to # 7 and again he ran into the one area of the field where Wisky had alignment advantages. Had Harris kept it, he had one man to beat for a TD. Second play, LSU spread again and the advantage is to the wideouts for a quick flare pass which would have gone for a huge gain. Harris doesn't check out of the run and again runs into teeth of defense. Third play, spread but TE slips getting into his route.

They never really ran the spread again after that.

Meanwhile, our coach to be (Jimbo Fisher) adjusts at halftime and absolutely obliterates a pretty decent Ole Miss defense with a freshman QB. So depressing!
This post was edited on 9/8/16 at 9:47 am
Posted by koLSU86
Member since Aug 2012
3471 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 9:36 am to
Les is the worst offensive coach in the country. What else do you expect at this point? He's proven time and time again that he doesn't know what the frick is going on so, there's that.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68333 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 9:39 am to
There are many high school coaches around the country who could run our offense immensely better than Les has. They'd do it for a lot less than 4.3 million or 1.5 million too.
Posted by wryder1
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2008
4176 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 9:42 am to
Most of the fan base believe Miles DESERVED another shot to redeem himself and they bashed us "negitigers". Now they don't want to be called out for their stupidity and want to jump on the bandwagon. I know those fans are tired of hearing it from those of us who have been wanting Miles gone for years but it's aggravating as hell that it took them so long to see it and a waste another season.

He embarrassed LSU in 2011, countless time mgt debacles and taking the heisman from Fournette last year.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 9:44 am to
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and still chose to run into the teeth of the Wisconsin defense and "play the game in a phone booth".



same shite against bama last year instead of spreading out backers in box with horizontal stretches. or attacking backers in space. or attacking in between backers and the safties in cover 2, making them finally either come up closer so we can go over the top or fan out to help outside then counter attacking intermediate/deep middle. I do not think miles knows what counter attack means or adjust. it is trench warfare for him. just CHARGE!!!!!! whatever happens, happens!
This post was edited on 9/8/16 at 9:46 am
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 9:48 am to
quote:

Most of the fan base believe Miles DESERVED another shot to redeem himself and they bashed us "negitigers". Now they don't want to be called out for their stupidity and want to jump on the bandwagon. I know those fans are tired of hearing it from those of us who have been wanting Miles gone for years but it's aggravating as hell that it took them so long to see it and a waste another season.


yup. the cracks and fissures were clearly evident in 2009 contrary to popular myth. this shite did not just start on 1-9-2012. that was the icing on the cake. 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2015 were just going through the motions after the fact yet still proving our points.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 9:49 am to
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They'd do it for a lot less than 4.3 million or 1.5 million too.




i was raked over the coals by people here for saying we got a crappy ROI with our head coach, especially since 1-9.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79142 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 9:50 am to
fact of the matter is this offense will run what it runs no matter what the defense is dictating.

it will try to run into brick walls repeatedly and then when it picks up a first down, it will repeat the same patterns.

Miles will not break tendencies. it's not in his blood to do so, to the detriment of his team.

thing is, the players will always feel responsible for letting the coaches down. however, these coaches almost never feel responsible for letting the players down. you hear it in press conferences where execution is to blame.

but they dont realize that the conditions before the play is even run already doom it.
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10206 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 9:50 am to
quote:

There are many high school coaches around the country who could run our offense immensely better than Les has. They'd do it for a lot less than 4.3 million or 1.5 million too.


Correct. Go watch some of the high school offenses that the better programs in Louisiana run. Some of them are really good, diverse, pressure the defense, and are executed well. Coaches of all levels share ideas at clinics, etc. so you might see a HS team running a simplified Clemson offense for example.

Then you watch LSU play and it looks like a vanilla JV-level game plan.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 10:06 am to
quote:

Most of the fan base believe Miles DESERVED another shot to redeem himself and they bashed us "negitigers". Now they don't want to be called out for their stupidity and want to jump on the bandwagon.


I can name two on this site that fits the bill.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39367 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 10:15 am to
quote:

Most of the fan base believe Miles DESERVED another shot to redeem himself and they bashed us "negitigers". Now they don't want to be called out for their stupidity and want to jump on the bandwagon.


wryder1, it's always easier to make up a cartoon figure, then demolish it in debate, than it is to defeat an actual person. Congratulations!

I was on the fence last year. I was ready for change if they could land Jimbo or better. Apparently, the Jimbo deal fell through. At that point I was very thankful that they stuck with Miles. Had they axed Miles, they would have had to settle for some middling candidate who might have been Curley Hallmanesque.

Before you say, "Anything would be an improvement." Think back to all the other coaches LSU has hired. There's been some real stinkers more often than not.

We are now in a very good position. We are starting a coaching search very early, and we should be able to get a top candidate. That is infinitely better than where we would be if jackasses like you had gotten your way, and we'd have been forced to hire a Mullens or some other mediocrite.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 10:30 am to
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We are now in a very good position. We are starting a coaching search very early, and we should be able to get a top candidate. That is infinitely better than where we would be if jackasses like you had gotten your way, and we'd have been forced to hire a Mullens or some other mediocrite




You are one stupid motherfricker.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76338 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 10:36 am to
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Then you watch LSU play and it looks like a vanilla JV-level game plan.



when I played, we ran an offense that was based on I formation and power running, but it also featured some nice pass plays, some fun deception, and creative blocking schemes. And never did I see a toss dive.

This was high school. In 1997.
Posted by DLSWVA
SW Virginia via Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
781 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 10:36 am to
It was hard enough on Monday listening to the college football shows on XM talk about the failings of the LSU offense Saturday; then, on Tuesday, listening to them talk about Fisher's brilliance making halftime adjustments left me despondent thinking about what might have been.

Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
72682 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 10:38 am to
we ran wishbone and we STILL passed the damn ball!
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
72682 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 10:40 am to
quote:

left me despondent thinking about what might have been.




depressing isn't it?

Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
10614 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 10:49 am to
Now they don't want to be called out for their stupidity and want to jump on the bandwagon.
---So now you're mad because more people agree with you?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27555 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 10:57 am to

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we ran wishbone and we STILL passed the damn ball

What happened when your receivers routinely screwed up their routes or suddenly developed hands of stone?
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72682 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

What happened when your receivers routinely screwed up their routes


never happened routinely.

quote:

suddenly developed hands of stone?


got their dicks ran into the dirt at practice plus extra work with coach mitchell slamming balls into their faces at point blank range and you had best be catching it!
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19070 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 12:26 pm to
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Meanwhile, our coach to be (Jimbo Fisher) adjusts at halftime and absolutely obliterates a pretty decent Ole Miss defense with a freshman QB.


News flash. Jimbo made adjustments before halftime. Even the commentators were remarking that fact. Result was he closed the half with a TD and came back out in the 3rd qtr to receive the KO and scored again... and again and again.
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