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Let's set the record straight on something about coaching records
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:36 pm
Almost every coach in the SEC over the last 10-15 years that stayed in place over the course of multiple years holds, or comes close to breaking, records in one or more of the following three categories:
1. The number of 10 win seasons
2. The number of total offense yards
3. Best offensive seasons for their schools
This list of coaches includes (off the top of my head): Mark Richt, Gus Malzahn, Kevin Sumlin, Dan Mullin, Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, Steve Spurrier, Hugh Freeze, Gary Pinkel, and Les Miles.
Citing "winningest" coach relative to a school historically (as well as offensive prowess) is meaningless given almost all coaches are doing it these days.
My point is, one reason Miles has so many records is because LSU was stupid enough to keep him longer than he should have been here so he could collect his 9-10 win pointless seasons.
For example, a few years back the SEC had seven 10 win teams and LSU...was in 5th place overall.
So please cite Les' career accomplishments, but just know that is more of an indictment on LSU than a compliment to Les Miles. It just means we settled on being a middle of the road SEC program for far too long.
That needs to end. Now.
1. The number of 10 win seasons
2. The number of total offense yards
3. Best offensive seasons for their schools
This list of coaches includes (off the top of my head): Mark Richt, Gus Malzahn, Kevin Sumlin, Dan Mullin, Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, Steve Spurrier, Hugh Freeze, Gary Pinkel, and Les Miles.
Citing "winningest" coach relative to a school historically (as well as offensive prowess) is meaningless given almost all coaches are doing it these days.
My point is, one reason Miles has so many records is because LSU was stupid enough to keep him longer than he should have been here so he could collect his 9-10 win pointless seasons.
For example, a few years back the SEC had seven 10 win teams and LSU...was in 5th place overall.
So please cite Les' career accomplishments, but just know that is more of an indictment on LSU than a compliment to Les Miles. It just means we settled on being a middle of the road SEC program for far too long.
That needs to end. Now.
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:38 pm to theunknownknight
quote:
Almost every coach in the SEC over the last 10-15 years that stayed in place over the course of multiple years holds, or comes close to breaking, records in one or more of the following three categories:
1. The number of 10 win seasons
2. The number of total offense yards
3. Best offensive seasons for their schools
Name them
You seem to have left off win %
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:38 pm to theunknownknight
Waiting for Choctaw to come in on this one.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:38 pm to theunknownknight
quote:
This list of coaches includes (off the top of my head): Mark Richt, Gus Malzahn, Kevin Sumlin, Dan Mullin, Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, Steve Spurrier, Hugh Freeze, Gary Pinkel, and Les Miles.
...and almost all of those coaches would be regarded as the best coaches those schools have had
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:38 pm to theunknownknight
What about championships and winning percentage?
We haven't had a coach win like Les has. He WAS a good coach but it's been over a decade. We don't have to act like he was never a good coach to acknowledge we need to move forward.
We haven't had a coach win like Les has. He WAS a good coach but it's been over a decade. We don't have to act like he was never a good coach to acknowledge we need to move forward.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:39 pm to theunknownknight
10 win season isn't the same as it is in the past. There's going to be 30 teams with 10 wins this year.
Teams are playing 13-14 games each year. 10 wins is easy when there's 4 cupcakes on the schedule every year.
Teams are playing 13-14 games each year. 10 wins is easy when there's 4 cupcakes on the schedule every year.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:39 pm to theunknownknight
I don't believe you
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:40 pm to SammyTiger
His winning percentage is around 5th in that list. I posted it last year on here sometime. Don't feel like digging it up. Search my post history.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:41 pm to PeteRose
That's why you go by win %...which was conveniently left off
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:41 pm to PeteRose
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There's going to be 30 teams with 10 wins this year.
Read my mind.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:41 pm to theunknownknight
if sumlin and malzahn hold records for 10 win seasons, then that just means tamu and auburn are shite.
they have had like 2 or 3 between them.
they have had like 2 or 3 between them.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:41 pm to theunknownknight
Even if this is true, it was unnecessary. Just about all of those who you allude to that posted that record in Les' defense have already said its time to move on.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:42 pm to Choctaw
Take out the cupcakes over the years and it's not that impressive.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:42 pm to theunknownknight
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1. The number of 10 win seasons
Meaningless. In the time of the Super conference argument teams have flooded their schedules with directional and FCS schools to the tune of 3 or sometimes 4 a season so they are "fresh" for the big conference games. So a 10 win season is just fluff if you can't win your conference games and Les has proven over the last 3-5 seasons he can't.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:43 pm to theunknownknight
He's 4th but that's including guys who coached 5 and 6 games total.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:43 pm to Choctaw
10 out of 12 or 83.33%. Take your pick. Same point.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:44 pm to Choctaw
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That's why you go by win %...which was conveniently left off
What is the SEC winning % over the last 4 years?
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