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re: Let's be honest here, do some of yall "dislike" Jerrard Randall because he's
Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:44 pm to jcole4lsu
Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:44 pm to jcole4lsu
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because there is a direct correlation between neck tattoos and leadership abilities
how many quality quarterbacks do you know with neck tats?
hell how many leaders - in any industry - do you know of with neck tats?
there is definitely a correlation between being a good leader and your decision making capabilities. i would venture to day that those with neck tats are substantially worse decision makers than others.
you sound like an old man
neck tattoos are not my thing and they aren't a good idea if you work a 9-5 job but they are pretty fricking common on athletes today
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Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:47 pm to Bottom9
It's unfair and ignorant for Randall to be compared to JJ at this point.
Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:47 pm to molsusports
I lol at people who decorate themselves with tattoos.
It's fricking retarded, not to mention trashy and creepy.
It's fricking retarded, not to mention trashy and creepy.
Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:51 pm to TheDoc
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It's been said he has the best arm on the team..
If that's true, great. But I haven't read or seen a single quote from anyone that even suggests that Randall or Rivers are in the same league with Mettenberger when it comes to who has the "best arm". Can you post a link?
Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:51 pm to Bottom9
I don't dislike Randall at all...I don't even know him nor does anyone else here. We also have no idea how he'll play. What I dislike is the fear that this COULD turn into another JJ/Lee debacle. I think we've all had quite enough of that for many, many years.
I also don't like this whole "added dimension" of the offense crap that everyone likes to spew about mobile QBs. The fact of the matter is pocket passers are better as a whole and there is no getting around it. We do not NEED to have a QB who can run a 4.5 40. It's a different game but Brees, Brady, and Manning seem to do fine without that ability and I would take one of them any day of the week over a "mobile" QB.
There's also the issue of beating around the bush of playing the race card. Let's face it...most mobile QBs that really rely on their running are black. Even guys like Vick or McNabb who've had lots of success just can't hold a candle to a true pocket passer. Now guys like Cam Newton or Tim Tebow may change that view a bit, but I think ultimately pocket passer is the way to go in football.
I also don't like this whole "added dimension" of the offense crap that everyone likes to spew about mobile QBs. The fact of the matter is pocket passers are better as a whole and there is no getting around it. We do not NEED to have a QB who can run a 4.5 40. It's a different game but Brees, Brady, and Manning seem to do fine without that ability and I would take one of them any day of the week over a "mobile" QB.
There's also the issue of beating around the bush of playing the race card. Let's face it...most mobile QBs that really rely on their running are black. Even guys like Vick or McNabb who've had lots of success just can't hold a candle to a true pocket passer. Now guys like Cam Newton or Tim Tebow may change that view a bit, but I think ultimately pocket passer is the way to go in football.
Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:51 pm to Bottom9
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Let's be honest here, do some of yall "dislike" Jerrard Randall because he's
a mobile QB?
we can see the hook
Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:56 pm to 1984Tiger
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Anyone who already "dislikes" Randall without ever seeing what he can do on the field is likely racist.
This is probably true.
Posted on 3/3/12 at 3:57 pm to Starchild
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I also don't like this whole "added dimension" of the offense crap that everyone likes to spew about mobile QBs. The fact of the matter is pocket passers are better as a whole and there is no getting around it. We do not NEED to have a QB who can run a 4.5 40. It's a different game but Brees, Brady, and Manning seem to do fine without that ability and I would take one of them any day of the week over a "mobile" QB.
There's also the issue of beating around the bush of playing the race card. Let's face it...most mobile QBs that really rely on their running are black. Even guys like Vick or McNabb who've had lots of success just can't hold a candle to a true pocket passer. Now guys like Cam Newton or Tim Tebow may change that view a bit, but I think ultimately pocket passer is the way to go in football.
You are confusing college and pro. Id take (in college) Newton Tebow Vick RGIII and Young over Luck Leinart and Jimmy Clausen and their individual and respective teams successes would seem to indicate that to be true.
Posted on 3/3/12 at 4:00 pm to Gray Tiger
quote:I want someone with confidence and can back up the walk. Because I want a team player doesn't mean I want someone who is weak. I don't want another Jefferson. Jefferson was high on himself and played for Jefferson not for LSU.
You want some one who is meek, silent and lacking in self confidence? Does this comment upset you? "I’m definitely confident in my ability to throw and feel like I can throw with the best of them,"
Posted on 3/3/12 at 4:03 pm to Adam Banks
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You asked for a good qb who has a neck tattoo. Vick is a good qb and probably top 5 college qb of all time.
Vick's accomplishments as a QB are due to his
a) athletic ability
or
b) leadership skills
?
ill roll with choice a) on that one.
my point was that it is very hard to find people with good leadership abilities and decision making skills if they also have neck tattoos. that is because getting a neck tat is just fricking dumb.
Instead of staying on point, you chose to change the subject and give anecdotal evidence of ONE qb - whom might be the most physically gifted person to ever play the position. And even then, you cannot dispute his TERRIBLE DECISION MAKING.
Otherwise you have come up with AI (another fantastic decision maker and team leader - we talkin bout practice man) and finally a single good example in Amare. congrats. you found a single example of a good decision maker with some neck ink.
as for the dolt that asked for a linked study, LOL. just look around. or hell peruse your local paper's mugshot section.
for the record, im 29 and have ink. doesnt change my position in the slightest that if you get a neck tat you are probably a dumbass.
so given we no really very little about any of our QBs on the roster - id be inclined to not have one with neck tattoos. if the kid does well, and makes good decisions than more power to him. i will certainly support him.
Posted on 3/3/12 at 4:09 pm to jcole4lsu
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my point was that it is very hard to find people with good leadership abilities and decision making skills if they also have neck tattoos. that is because getting a neck tat is just fricking dumb.
Explain to me the difference between a neck tattoo and a large hand or sleeve tattoo.
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finally a single good example in Amare. congrats. you found a single example of a good decision maker with some neck ink.
forgot prince fielder so that makes 2/4 if you wnat to encompass off the field stuff into this discussion. 4/4 will be going to their respective hall of fames if you want to limit to on the field.
This post was edited on 3/3/12 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 3/3/12 at 4:09 pm to jcole4lsu
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id be inclined to not have one with neck tattoos.
Maybe he'll get it removed if you ask him to?
This post was edited on 3/3/12 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 3/3/12 at 4:11 pm to jcole4lsu
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you found a single example of a good decision maker with some neck ink
What about David Beckham? Pretty sure he's generally considered a good decision maker. Anyway, you are stating your opinion as proof that a person with a neck tattoo cannot be a good decision maker, and it's just stupid to do so. I also know a guy that has his own law firm, and has a neck tattoo.
Posted on 3/3/12 at 4:13 pm to Adam Banks
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Explain to me the difference between a neck tattoo and a large hand or sleeve tattoo.
i couldnt tell you. but the difference is there.
you just cant find that many individuals that have neck tats that have a decent head on their shoulders.
a few basketball players, obviously i am not including actual tattoo artists, but other than that they are VERY few and far between.
there is just something about the mentality that comes with getting that particular thing done.
similarly, do you think people with face tats make good decisions? would you consider someone with a teardrop or mike tyson esque whatever the frick that is to be a good idea and indicative of leadership qualities? not all ink is the same.
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forgot prince fielder so that makes 2/4 if you wnat to encompass off the field stuff into this discussion. 4/4 will be going to their respective hall of fames if you want to limit to on the field.
4 out of 4? for every amare you find i can find 5 or 10 delonte wests.
Posted on 3/3/12 at 4:13 pm to Tiger in NY
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What about David Beckham? Pretty sure he's generally considered a good decision maker
Clearly can never be a team leader.
Posted on 3/3/12 at 4:14 pm to Tiger in NY
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Anyway, you are stating your opinion as proof that a person with a neck tattoo cannot be a good decision maker
i said no such thing.
i said it was a sign the person was PROBABLY not a good decision maker or leader.
your anecdotal evidence aside, i see nothing to change my mind.
Posted on 3/3/12 at 4:15 pm to Adam Banks
how did the conversation get on Becks? 
Posted on 3/3/12 at 4:16 pm to jcole4lsu
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4 out of 4? for every amare you find i can find 5 or 10 delonte wests.
4 out of the 4 I found right off hand and was listing. Ryan Leaf had no tattoos. He must have been a great leader.
Posted on 3/3/12 at 4:17 pm to jcole4lsu
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there is just something about the mentality that comes with getting that particular thing done.
Where the frick do you get this shite? PDiddy (like him or not) is another example of a good decision maker and hugely successful person.
The point is just that there is no correlation. People are dumbasses or are not dumbasses, but it doesn't have anything to do with whether or not they have a neck tattoo. Josh Booty, JJ, RYan Leaf, Jeff George....none of them have neck tattoos.
This post was edited on 3/3/12 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 3/3/12 at 4:18 pm to Elleshoe
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how did the conversation get on Becks?
Because this dumbass thinks that Jerrard Randalls neck tatoos mean he makes terrible decisions and will never be a successful leader
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