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re: Les should STAY but raise??? Hell NO

Posted on 11/28/12 at 3:09 pm to
Posted by Woogiemonster
Down by the River
Member since Nov 2012
79 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 3:09 pm to
The fact that he didn't say anything is because they were working on a new deal. Thats obvious, no one ever comes out to immediately deny serious offers.

quote:

on what grounds? that simple fact ARK offered him more money?


...Yes. That's how market value works.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23066 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

He isn't shite without LSU



Dumbest argument ever. Is Saban anything without LSU or Bama? NO

Posted by Smiling_Tiger
Heaven
Member since Nov 2012
633 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 3:19 pm to
The OP is a dumbass. I stopped reading after the first line. If Les didn't recruite well, LSU wouldn't have had the best players. So STFU.
Posted by death valley driver
CHOPPA CITY
Member since Jul 2004
11595 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 3:27 pm to
if anything LES has been saban's maintenance man. do you think if miles came before saban we'd have what we have TODAY?

as the greatest BAND in the land Metallica would say "SAD BUT TRUE"

Posted by Woogiemonster
Down by the River
Member since Nov 2012
79 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

as the greatest BAND in the land Metallica would say


Proof that you have poor taste
Posted by Tiger at Law
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
2990 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 3:32 pm to
Posted by Shankopotomus
Social Distanced
Member since Feb 2009
21057 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

Les deserves a raise


he JUST got one, 10-2 and losing our division he needs yet another?
Posted by Shankopotomus
Social Distanced
Member since Feb 2009
21057 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

If someone throws a crapton of money at him and he denies because of his loyalty to the program


did

not

happen
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7636 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 3:37 pm to
My guess is that you would be smart enough to want to be paid what the market indicates is your value too. Les should be paid commensurate with his peers, which is among the most successful coaches in the country. How many other coaches have 80%+ winning records over 8 years in the history of the SEC? LSU has had only one since 1893. His name: Les Miles. Quibble all you want, but when all is said and done, he is has the best record of any coach in LSU history and one of the very best in the history of the SEC. No, he isn't perfect, but he is still the most successful coach in LSU history.
Posted by jmac
Member since Nov 2009
83 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 3:38 pm to
No doubt, 10-2 is good...above average which matched his pay...above average. But to get a raise when none of the team goals were met and we are sitiing at home during SEC and BSC Championship games is not earned or deserved.
Posted by JGTiger
Member since Aug 2007
2940 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

If i'm an LSU rival, I just throw out a ridiculous contract "offer" to Miles every year just to force LSU into giving Miles unwarranted raises every offseason.


Which rival does Miles not have a winning record against?
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

with the BEST players


Have you looked at the recruiting rankings?
Posted by nofear67
Houston
Member since Jan 2006
2285 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 3:39 pm to
He has a want to be at LSU and has succeeded inspite of most of this pathetic and vaginal fan base. Loyalty and integrity are lacking qualities in people and LSU has a coach with both yet could care less because he doesn't win games in a manner conducive to arm chair coaches.
This post was edited on 11/28/12 at 3:40 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278309 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

...Yes. That's how market value works.



Not when leaving LSU for ARK is unrealistic.

Thats not the way to handle asking for a raise or extension
Posted by nofear67
Houston
Member since Jan 2006
2285 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 3:44 pm to
quote:

No doubt, 10-2 is good...above average which matched his pay...above average. But to get a raise when none of the team goals were met and we are sitiing at home during SEC and BSC Championship games is not earned or deserved.

Seriously what does this have to do with whether or not LSU should match an unsolicited offer from another school? He has been one of the most successful coaches in CFB since joining LSU.
Posted by TigersInExile
OhioTiger
Member since Nov 2008
901 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 3:58 pm to
Contrary to often popular belief, nope, not nearly "everyone would DIE to coach at LSU" and the SEC. Where's ole Urbi got himself off to these days?

It takes a certain type of coach to come in and "grow" into a SEC HC AND to STAY a SEC HC (assuming one is good enough to win at least 10-11 games a year most years in the competitive SEC to begin with - try coming in somewhere like LSU or 'bama and pulling something like a 7-5 record your first year and see if you get any slack).

Then there's handling the media, top notch top ten recruiting rankings year in and year out with the natives squealing for top five at the least, if not top 3 or better from the get-go, staff hiring and all that jazz in a boiler room coupled with living on the "hot seat since the day we got here" as Les once pointed out in a press conference. Yep, sure it's easy to pick a winna three times in a row. Yeah, right ...

Oh and before you reply (if you intend to), kindly pay at least as much attention to what I did NOT say as you do to what I DID say.

P.S. I'll give you at least this much enlightenment - Les is a helluva lot smarter than you and others give him credit for. He's quite well-spoken when he isn't putting on the proverbial "dog" for the media, etc. But, carry on with that "image" if you like, he's smart enough have you buying in and if you do keep buying into that, you're the "bulb in the drawer" who is a lot dimmer than Les has ever been.
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