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Les quote about execution

Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:36 am
Posted by Bloodworth
North Ga
Member since Oct 2007
4000 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:36 am
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#LSU coach Les Miles: The issue is we have to accomplish the play that is being called and execute it.


I'm not sure if Les realizes the gravity of this seemingly innocent statement. It is a clumsy quote as is the case with most of Les' speech.

In order to run a successful play, the team needs to be coached on the proper execution. Each game of late indicates to me a glaring lack of coaching related to execution.

* Everyone has seen the frantic stare from Brandon to "somebody" on the sideline waiting for a play. That stare is usually accompanied with a look of frustration and confusion. How is it possible that this continues week in and week out? They literally have trouble executing the play call onto the field. It is infuriating and painful to watch LSU try to run a no huddle offense. This offense is only successful with the highest level of coaching and confidence by the players. Its embarrassing to watch and its not the players fault.

* We have all seen Brandon Harris struggle with throws and timing with his receivers. Somehow, even the most basic patterns (slants/outs)seem to be very complex for him. As a result, Les reigns in and relies on running the ball because he doesn't trust Harris. Please tell me why Harris cant seem to perfect anything but Hail Mary passes? It appears the basic mechanics of the simplest routes are not taught properly and the repetition to perfect is not there either. Not Harris' problem. Cameron is obviously unable to handle this and we know Les cant do it so there you go. Harris will continue to struggle. Oh yea, and he wont have a coach on the sideline during games to talk to either. A coach that might be able to show him what he did wrong or praise him when he does something right.

* We can blame the players all day long about how we cant execute a screen pass but its the coaches fault. In LSU's run heavy offense, the screen should be a deadly weapon for this team. Most teams have figured out when LSU will be throwing and bring the house on pass rush. LSU could take advantage of this a couple of times during games, but... they cant execute the play most of the time which is again on the coaches.

* Penalties are rampantly out of control because technique is poor. False starts, illegal formations, holding, etc... Why does Miles accept this from his teams?

* Discipline is suspect as well. Our players seem to celebrate excessively on successful plays as if they accomplished the act for the first time. Sometimes it leads to penalties. Taunting after a good play on pass defense... Posing and theatrics after a sack... Why do they do this stuff? Why don't the coaches make any effort to curb this stuff? They act a lot like the old Miami Hurricanes minus the execution. By golly if you want to act like that then at lease be able to back it up. This is all on Les.

The problems at LSU are certainly related to Les not wanting to change. But the bigger problem is because Les has hit his ceiling on coaching ability. The team has trouble executing the basics and if they cant do that in an offense like this then that should tell you all you need to know. They are undisciplined. Not all of them but a lot of them have trouble controlling their emotions during the games. This cant be more obviously a coaching failure. He doesn't need to be "Nick Saban like" in his approach but needs to take a step in that direction to help get rid of all the stupid mistakes. This wont happen though.

Good players have obviously helped Les achieve a respectable level of success over the past few years. However, LSU plateaued with Les years ago. He wont wake up one day and suddenly "Get it". What you see is what you get. There will be no change until Les is gone.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58107 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:38 am to
Good post.
Be prepared to be called a negatiger by those that are in denial about this issue.
Les is nice to them when they screw up so its ok
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
20856 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:40 am to
Agree on all points. We appear to always rely upon beating opponents due to our superior athleticism. The coaching, execution, and game planning is never lights out.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:40 am to
*other teams are trying to execute their defense against our offense...just because a run gets stuffed doesn't mean we aren't executing well
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
77931 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:41 am to
quote:

In order to run a successful play, the team needs to be coached on the proper execution. Each game of late indicates to me a glaring lack of coaching related to execution.



I agree to a point, but at some point Harris has to actually complete some of those short passes instead of sky balling them or throwing them in the dirt.
Posted by mcpotiger
Missouri
Member since Mar 2005
6916 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:41 am to
quote:

Agree on all points. We appear to always rely upon beating opponents due to our superior athleticism. The coaching, execution, and game planning is never lights out.


Yep. Exactly
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
19971 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:41 am to
quote:

I'm not sure if Les realizes the gravity of this seemingly innocent statement. It is a clumsy quote as is the case with most of Les' speech.

In order to run a successful play, the team needs to be coached on the proper execution. Each game of late indicates to me a glaring lack of coaching related to execution.


I think that is obvious, but you have to play with what you have. Harris tossing the ball to no one at the goal line at OM, perfect example. Defense just looking beat that 3 game stretch. Maybe part of coaching is letting your players no publicly that you are not satisfied with their performance.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:41 am to
That is a truthful post but you will be attacked by the pumpers on here. Anyone who is the least bit honest will have to admit that LSU is a poorly coached team.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27482 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:45 am to
I really wonder how the season would have turned out if just 50% of the dropped passes were not dropped.
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8533 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:46 am to
Excellent post. You summed up most of my concerns with Les, that were present long before we started this decline in 2012.

Les wants to be players' coach. You can discipline player action (on and off the field) and still be a players' coach (Urban Meyer, Pete Carroll, etc.). These guys aren't Nick Saban intense, but their players are afraid of the consequences of doing stupid things on and off the field. This lack of discipline and attention to detail has concerned me for a long time. Prior to 2007, we were head and shoulders more talented than most teams in the SEC West, that is not the case today and the lack of discipline and attention to detail are starting to become more obvious.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:46 am to
quote:

“The issue is that we have to accomplish the play that’s being called and execute better,” Miles said Sunday. “I promise you, I recognize the effort and energies of my coaching staff. I understand what’s being coached. I have an understanding that we, collectively as coaches and players, have to improve.”

Why did you leave out the rest of Miles' statement? He admits the coaches have to do a better job in order for play execution to improve.

I'm ready for Miles to retire but some posters on this board are feeding off of each other just to see who can generate the silliest criticism of anything Miles says or does.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83525 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:47 am to
although your points are a bit hyperbolic, I agree to an extent

quote:

Our players seem to celebrate excessively on successful plays as if they accomplished the act for the first time. Sometimes it leads to penalties. Taunting after a good play on pass defense... Posing and theatrics after a sack... Why do they do this stuff? Why don't the coaches make any effort to curb this stuff? They act a lot like the old Miami Hurricanes minus the execution. By golly if you want to act like that then at lease be able to back it up. This is all on Les.


I don't see this at all though. I see some celebrations, but not excessive in anyway
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:49 am to
quote:

your players no publicly that you are not satisfied with their performance.



I am assuming that you favor Les calling out their names in the press and embarrassing them in public.

This is always a good motivator. Amirite?
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8533 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:49 am to
quote:

I don't see this at all though. I see some celebrations, but not excessive in anyway


Are you serious, we kept an A&M drive alive two weeks ago because our D line did a bow after getting a sack that would have forced a punt.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:50 am to
Continue to blame coaches all you want...but he's right. When your players don't execute on the simplest of levels at times, he can't go out and suit up for them.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65821 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:50 am to
It's just such a disgusting quote.

He just won't acknowledge he needs to do anything differently.

It's like after the alabama/arkansas games he said, "i don't know the answer"

He only knows one way, and when it doesn't work.. it's an execution issue.

quote:

Good players have obviously helped Les achieve a respectable level of success over the past few years. However, LSU plateaued with Les years ago. He wont wake up one day and suddenly "Get it". What you see is what you get. There will be no change until Les is gone.


It's truly sad and makes things extremely difficult. LSU can still win, even big games with Les.. but it's going to take absolutely ELITE talent.. especially on the lines.. like the 2011 team.. and even then not able to win it all, because coaching will matter when you face an equally talented team.
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:50 am to
Your current regurgitation of all the other posts re miles and execution are just as empty as the others were. do everyone a favor and go back to your madden game
Posted by GoldenTrumpeter
Member since Nov 2015
226 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:52 am to
quote:

Everyone has seen the frantic stare from Brandon to "somebody" on the sideline waiting for a play. That stare is usually accompanied with a look of frustration and confusion. How is it possible that this continues year in and year out?


FIFY
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83525 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:52 am to
meh

a freshmen getting excited about making a big play and I'm sure he was disciplined in some way

my point is that its in no way to the point that it could be compared to Miami back in the day thats just ridiculous
Posted by JGTiger
Member since Aug 2007
2938 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:53 am to
My biggest problem with the offense is that they do not get to the line of scrimmage until there is less than 10 seconds on the play clock. Even if we aren't changing plays, I promise that passing plays would function better if Harris had time to look at the defense, make protection adjustments, pre read the coverage and run the play.
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