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Les Miles vs. Charlie McClendon # of losses in their 1st 11 years
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:12 am
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:12 am
Each took over similar programs, so here is how they compare in their 1st 11 years as head coach at LSU.
# of Losses per year
...............McClendon ...... Miles
Year 1...............1....................2
Year 2...............4....................2
Year 3...............2....................2
Year 4...............3....................5
Year 5...............4....................4
Year 6...............3....................2
Year 7...............3....................1
Year 8...............1....................3
Year 9...............3....................3
Year 10.............3....................5
Year 11.............2....................1
TOTAL.............29 ................30
Record vs. Alabama coaches in 1st 11 years:
McClendon vs. Bear Bryant 2-7 -----(Bear was at bama 4 years prior to McClendon becoming head coach)
Miles vs. Saban 3-7 ----- (Saban came to bama in Miles 3rd year)
# of Losses per year
...............McClendon ...... Miles
Year 1...............1....................2
Year 2...............4....................2
Year 3...............2....................2
Year 4...............3....................5
Year 5...............4....................4
Year 6...............3....................2
Year 7...............3....................1
Year 8...............1....................3
Year 9...............3....................3
Year 10.............3....................5
Year 11.............2....................1
TOTAL.............29 ................30
Record vs. Alabama coaches in 1st 11 years:
McClendon vs. Bear Bryant 2-7 -----(Bear was at bama 4 years prior to McClendon becoming head coach)
Miles vs. Saban 3-7 ----- (Saban came to bama in Miles 3rd year)
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 9:15 am
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:15 am to T
Excellent
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:16 am to T
McClendon noose-dived after that, though. Miles appears to be improving. His recruiting certainly is.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:17 am to T
Ok now remind us what happened in the 80-90s to LSU football after McClendon was canned.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:17 am to T
Crazy how close it is.
# of games does need to be taken into account, though. Miles' teams play 1-2 more games per year, so I'll bet his % of losses is a bit lower than Mac's.
# of games does need to be taken into account, though. Miles' teams play 1-2 more games per year, so I'll bet his % of losses is a bit lower than Mac's.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:18 am to T
How many extra games has Les played? My guess is at least 11...
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:19 am to MrSpock
quote:
Ok now remind us what happened in the 80-90s to LSU football after McClendon was canned.
They won the SEC?
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:20 am to MrSpock
haha. fail. 80s were a little up and down but pretty damn good.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:23 am to MrSpock
quote:
Ok now remind us what happened in the 80-90s
Won conference under Arnsparger.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:23 am to LSUtoOmaha
quote:
How many extra games has Les played? My guess is at least 11...
At least 11, more like 13. Mac never had a season >12 games, Les never <13. And he's had 2 seasons of 14 games. I think.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:27 am to T
quote:
...............McClendon ...... Miles
Year 1...............1....................2
Year 2...............4....................2
Year 3...............2....................2
Year 4...............3....................5
Year 5...............4....................4
Year 6...............3....................2
Year 7...............3....................1
Year 8...............1....................3
Year 9...............3....................3
Year 10.............3....................5
Year 11.............2....................1
TOTAL.............29 ................30
Mac = 86 wins Miles = 110
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:27 am to LSUtoOmaha
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How many extra games has Les played? My guess is at least 11...
They didn't play as many games against the Mcneese's and UAB's of the world. Look at schedules from the 60's and compare to today.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:29 am to MrSpock
quote:
Ok now remind us what happened in the 80-90s to LSU football after McClendon was canned.
In the 80s we had two SEC championships. Same as in Miles decade here.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:29 am to bulldogger
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80s were a little up and down but pretty damn good.
If you consider this good then you must consider Miles great.
1980 - 7-4
1981 - 3-7-1
1982 - 8-3-1
1983 - 4-7
1984 - 8-3-1
1985 - 9-2-1
1986 - 9-3
1987 - 10-1-1
1988 - 8-4
1989 - 4-7
1990 - 5-6
1991 - 5-6
1992 - 2-9
1993 - 5-6
1994 - 4-7
1995 - 7-4-1
1996 - 10-2
1997 - 9-3
1998 - 4-7
1999 - 3-8
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:30 am to T
It's so useless to compare LSU to the 80s and 90s, no matter the angle, good or bad, you're trying to pursue. It's just a categorically different program now with the infrastructure in place to maximize the natural resources. College football is drastically different as well.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:38 am to T
This is a great post.
Show the record v. Saban of any active coach in America who has faced him 11 times.
He's demolishing all of them.
Alabama is the equivalent of Duke, Kentucky or Kansas in hoops - an established blue blood that simply has a dominant program.
Ole Miss as "Bama Killer" is a myth. Sure 2 in a row, but one included 5 TO's and a TD off a dude's helmet and they still lost by 6. Freeze will not beat Saban again as long as they're in their current jobs.
Losing to Bama absolutely fricking blows, but to think that a different coach or OC or scheme will guarantee us sustained success v. Bama is ignoring decades of history.
Bama, like Duke and Kentucky in hoops, is better at adapting to the times to dominate long term than everyone else.
Show the record v. Saban of any active coach in America who has faced him 11 times.
He's demolishing all of them.
Alabama is the equivalent of Duke, Kentucky or Kansas in hoops - an established blue blood that simply has a dominant program.
Ole Miss as "Bama Killer" is a myth. Sure 2 in a row, but one included 5 TO's and a TD off a dude's helmet and they still lost by 6. Freeze will not beat Saban again as long as they're in their current jobs.
Losing to Bama absolutely fricking blows, but to think that a different coach or OC or scheme will guarantee us sustained success v. Bama is ignoring decades of history.
Bama, like Duke and Kentucky in hoops, is better at adapting to the times to dominate long term than everyone else.
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 9:48 am
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:44 am to uway
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In the 80s we had two SEC championships. Same as in Miles decade here.
National Championships Teams in the 1980s
1980 - Georgia
1981 - Clemson
1982 - Penn State
1983 - Miami
1984 - BYU
1985 - Oklahoma
1986 - Penn State
1987 - Miami
1988 - Notre Dame
1989 - Georgia Tech/Colorado
National Championship Teams Since Miles' Tenure
2005 - Texas
2006 - Florida (permanent cross division rival)
2007 - LSU
2008 - Florida (permanent cross division rival)
2009 - Alabama (division rival)
2010 - Auburn (division rival)
2011 - Alabama (division rival) vs LSU
2012 - Alabama (division rival)
2013 - Florida State vs Auburn (division rival) Florida State won
2014 - Ohio State (Alabama made 4 team playoff)
If you can't understand that the SEC today is more competitive that it has ever been you are either too dense or insanely bias.
In that time Mile's has 2 SEC Championships and 1 National Title with another appearance.
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 9:46 am
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:44 am to MrSpock
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Ok now remind us what happened in the 80-90s to LSU football after McClendon was canned.
A few really good teams (two or three were better than anything Mac had fielded in his last 10 or so years), a couple of really bad breaks, and two disastrous hires (one is almost forgivable, one is not).
What's the point? Mac was at the end of his road. Are you suggesting they should have just held onto him as coach indefinitely.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:47 am to MrSpock
I just stated a fact.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:50 am to Y.A. Tittle
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What's the point? Mac was at the end of his road. Are you suggesting they should have just held onto him as coach indefinitely.
McClendon was 5-3 at game 8 in his last season.
Miles is 7-1 with a loss to arguably the best team in the nation with the #1 recruiting class incoming.
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