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Les Miles the next Larry Coker?
Posted on 9/15/09 at 9:28 am
Posted on 9/15/09 at 9:28 am
Current LSU head football coach Les Miles greatly resembles Larry Coker, the former head football coach at the University of Miami. The similarities between the two are too great to dismiss this comparison.
Butch Davis, currently the head coach at North Carolina, was largely responsible for cleaning up the corrupt Hurricane football program. Despite a one year postseason ban and a loss of 31 scholarships,within 6 years Davis had returned Miami to national power status. His last team, the 2000 squad, finished 11-1 and was ranked #2 in the final polls. Davis then took an opportunity to head up to the NFL's Cleveland Browns.
Coker, promoted from the offensive coordinator spot, would lead the team, built by Davis, to the 2001 national championship.
Gradually, the win totals dwindled, and Coker's program became less intimidating. The Hurricanes began losing games they should win, and the program became as disorganized as it had been previous to the Davis era. Larry Coker was fired after the 2005 season in which he suffered a 40-3 loss against Les Miles and LSU in the Chik-fil-a Peach Bowl.
How does Les Miles fit into this equation? He also inherited a national power from a coach destined for a brief stint in the NFL. Saban's LSU squads gradually improved under his leadership, peaking with a national championship in 2003.
Miles took over in 2005 and would lose only two games in each of his 3 seasons, and the 2007 squad was undefeated in regulation. (The losses were both in multiple overtime games vs. Kentucky and Arkansas, respectively.) Yet, even as a national champion, the nagging questions remain. Is Miles only winning with the players Saban left him? Will Miles be another washout like Coker? Of course only time will tell.
Since many of the defensive players recruited by Saban have left LSU, the tiger defense has dropped drastically. It seems that Miles is unable to do it by himself. After last season's pitiful 8-5 record (losing 3 of the last 5 games) Miles has something to prove.
The upcoming season will go a long way toward either dampening or fueling those fires. One wonders if the gutsy playcalling will result in magic again this year, or if the brutal SEC schedule will get the best of LSU. If the Bayou Bengals can deliver another 10 or 11 win season, Miles will finally be out from under the Saban umbrella and far away from any more comparisons to Larry Coker. Come up short, and cheap LSU trucker hats will be a dime a dozen on ebay.
Butch Davis, currently the head coach at North Carolina, was largely responsible for cleaning up the corrupt Hurricane football program. Despite a one year postseason ban and a loss of 31 scholarships,within 6 years Davis had returned Miami to national power status. His last team, the 2000 squad, finished 11-1 and was ranked #2 in the final polls. Davis then took an opportunity to head up to the NFL's Cleveland Browns.
Coker, promoted from the offensive coordinator spot, would lead the team, built by Davis, to the 2001 national championship.
Gradually, the win totals dwindled, and Coker's program became less intimidating. The Hurricanes began losing games they should win, and the program became as disorganized as it had been previous to the Davis era. Larry Coker was fired after the 2005 season in which he suffered a 40-3 loss against Les Miles and LSU in the Chik-fil-a Peach Bowl.
How does Les Miles fit into this equation? He also inherited a national power from a coach destined for a brief stint in the NFL. Saban's LSU squads gradually improved under his leadership, peaking with a national championship in 2003.
Miles took over in 2005 and would lose only two games in each of his 3 seasons, and the 2007 squad was undefeated in regulation. (The losses were both in multiple overtime games vs. Kentucky and Arkansas, respectively.) Yet, even as a national champion, the nagging questions remain. Is Miles only winning with the players Saban left him? Will Miles be another washout like Coker? Of course only time will tell.
Since many of the defensive players recruited by Saban have left LSU, the tiger defense has dropped drastically. It seems that Miles is unable to do it by himself. After last season's pitiful 8-5 record (losing 3 of the last 5 games) Miles has something to prove.
The upcoming season will go a long way toward either dampening or fueling those fires. One wonders if the gutsy playcalling will result in magic again this year, or if the brutal SEC schedule will get the best of LSU. If the Bayou Bengals can deliver another 10 or 11 win season, Miles will finally be out from under the Saban umbrella and far away from any more comparisons to Larry Coker. Come up short, and cheap LSU trucker hats will be a dime a dozen on ebay.
This post was edited on 9/15/09 at 9:39 am
Posted on 9/15/09 at 9:29 am to mba29124
Great first post ! I have never heard that reference. Thanks for sharing.
Posted on 9/15/09 at 9:29 am to mba29124
I mean Damn!
Yet another first post angling at Les......
GO AWAY!
Yet another first post angling at Les......
GO AWAY!
Posted on 9/15/09 at 9:30 am to mba29124
quote:
Les Miles the next Larry Coker?
Congrats on the blindingly original post.
Posted on 9/15/09 at 9:31 am to CharlesLSU
Where did you copy and paste that from?
Posted on 9/15/09 at 9:32 am to mba29124
IF RP isnt kicked off the team and Pelini doesnt go to Nebraska...then you arent starting this thread...
Posted on 9/15/09 at 9:33 am to mba29124
It appears to be heading that way
Posted on 9/15/09 at 9:34 am to GeauxTigerTM
Les is more of a german version of coker.
Posted on 9/15/09 at 9:34 am to mba29124
Had to create an alter to say this? You pussy...
Posted on 9/15/09 at 9:35 am to mba29124
quote:
How does Les Miles fit into this equation? He also inherited a national power from a coach destined for a brief stint in the NFL. Saban's LSU squads gradually improved under his leadership, peaking with a national championship in 2003.
I hate to point out the fricking obvious, but Saban was here in 2004...you know...AFTER peaking in 2003. That team went 9-2 in the regaular season, with a road loss to AU and a loss that resembled a date rape to UGA 45-16. His team peaked one final time in the Cap One against Iowa...
Posted on 9/15/09 at 9:36 am to mba29124
quote:Please kill yourself.
mba29124
Posted on 9/15/09 at 9:36 am to Nike1
quote:
Where did you copy and paste that from?
I read up a little on Miles and Coker, but I wrote this myself.
For everyone else, I did not state that I believe Miles is going to end up like Coker. I just cannot dismiss the similarities. I have not missed an LSU home game/bowl game since I was nine months old, so my fan status is not in question. I simply want other opinions on Miles.
Posted on 9/15/09 at 9:36 am to HOUbengal
We were born on the same day
Posted on 9/15/09 at 9:36 am to JustSmokin
NO this is such bullshite. GTFO.
Posted on 9/15/09 at 9:38 am to mba29124
quote:
Larry Coker was fired after the 2006 season in which he suffered a 40-3 loss against Les Miles and LSU in the Chik-fil-a Peach Bowl.
LSU beat Miami's azz 40-3 in the 2005 season you arse wipe. Get your facts right.
Posted on 9/15/09 at 9:39 am to mba29124
quote:Here is my opinion of you for posting something that's been posted since 2005 about 1,000 times and has been proven on it's face to be a false assumption.
I simply want other opinions on Miles.
Posted on 9/15/09 at 9:39 am to mba29124
quote:
Since many of the defensive players recruited by Saban have left LSU
I know this is a terrible troll but I found this funny.
Charles Alexander
Harry Coleman
Marlon Favorite
Tyson Jackson
Tremaine Johnson
Curtis Taylor
Kirston Pittman
Were all signed by Saban and were on defense last year. So much for your theory.
Posted on 9/15/09 at 9:39 am to HOUbengal
quote:
IF RP isnt kicked off the team and Pelini doesnt go to Nebraska...then you arent starting this thread...
if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.
anyone who isn't at least a little scared Miles is going to turn out as Coker did is fooling themselves.
Posted on 9/15/09 at 9:40 am to jazzisbaseball
Coker lost control of his team at Miami. It was filled with thugs who went buck-wild. That was his downfall.
Miles has never lost control of LSU and in fact have recruited some quality individuals. We have had a few bad apples but nothing like Miami.
Remember the peach bowl? Have you ever seen an LSU team chase another team into a locker room?
ETA.. nice 2 post, somebody ban this impostor Alabama fan here just to stir up trouble.
Miles has never lost control of LSU and in fact have recruited some quality individuals. We have had a few bad apples but nothing like Miami.
Remember the peach bowl? Have you ever seen an LSU team chase another team into a locker room?
ETA.. nice 2 post, somebody ban this impostor Alabama fan here just to stir up trouble.
This post was edited on 9/15/09 at 9:42 am
Posted on 9/15/09 at 9:41 am to Elleshoe
quote:
anyone who isn't at least a little scared Miles is going to turn out as Coker did is fooling themselves.
THANK YOU!
We are all worried, especially after the stalling offense in the first two games.
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