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Posted on 12/7/14 at 9:34 am to ctiger69
Theres alot of NFL teams looking for a QB. They are at he mercy of what the colleges give them.
Why cant Louisiana develop a SEC QB in high school? This is an unbelievable trend. Do u change styles because u cant find a QB in state? Do u risk destroying program and your legacy and now all of a sudden there are 1-2 every year like most states?
Im at a loss on how LSU should proceed. This is a major step if they abandon their style because the high school coaches can not develop 1 QB in all of this Louisiana talent.
Why cant Louisiana develop a SEC QB in high school? This is an unbelievable trend. Do u change styles because u cant find a QB in state? Do u risk destroying program and your legacy and now all of a sudden there are 1-2 every year like most states?
Im at a loss on how LSU should proceed. This is a major step if they abandon their style because the high school coaches can not develop 1 QB in all of this Louisiana talent.
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 10:21 am
Posted on 12/7/14 at 9:44 am to LSUANDY25
So we need a QB, we know this, JC, whos out there? I saw next years high school guy, looks same as we have now?
Posted on 12/7/14 at 9:46 am to Dudebro2
The problem with the laundry list of excuses is that they contradict each other.
"Our QBs are just young"-- LSU should never be in this position. If the recruiting and development at the position is done correctly.
" Our QBs just suck" -- Then why are they on scholarship?
" Our QBs can't grasp our pro-style scheme" - Well come up with something they can grasp. You get paid millions and this is the best you can come up with. Give me a fricking break.
I honestly don't think he can adapt. And the problem this time is he doesn't have a scapegoat that he can fire when the going gets tough. He's got his buddy that he pays a shitload of money and who from all reports agrees with him on the offensive (lack of) scheme.
Point to 2013 numbers all day long. But doesn't explain the issues LSU has had in the past or the issues they have now. The was a perfect storm of a JC transfer and two studs on the outside that could beat their man on most plays.
They don't know what they want to recruit. They can't keep who they recruit here. They can't develop the ones they do get here. They can't come up with a scheme to fit the skill set of what they have.
"Our QBs are just young"-- LSU should never be in this position. If the recruiting and development at the position is done correctly.
" Our QBs just suck" -- Then why are they on scholarship?
" Our QBs can't grasp our pro-style scheme" - Well come up with something they can grasp. You get paid millions and this is the best you can come up with. Give me a fricking break.
I honestly don't think he can adapt. And the problem this time is he doesn't have a scapegoat that he can fire when the going gets tough. He's got his buddy that he pays a shitload of money and who from all reports agrees with him on the offensive (lack of) scheme.
Point to 2013 numbers all day long. But doesn't explain the issues LSU has had in the past or the issues they have now. The was a perfect storm of a JC transfer and two studs on the outside that could beat their man on most plays.
They don't know what they want to recruit. They can't keep who they recruit here. They can't develop the ones they do get here. They can't come up with a scheme to fit the skill set of what they have.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:11 am to nm1230
They know what they want. Finding him and convincing him to leave state and not be the focal point of the offense is the conundrum.
Its not like they arent looking under every rock to find this guy. Lets look at just the last 2-3 yrs. Indiana, Kansas, Georgia, Los Angeles, Alabama,Texas.
Sure would be a little easier if the state could produce one occasionally.
Its not like they arent looking under every rock to find this guy. Lets look at just the last 2-3 yrs. Indiana, Kansas, Georgia, Los Angeles, Alabama,Texas.
Sure would be a little easier if the state could produce one occasionally.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:54 am to LSUANDY25
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Im at a loss on how LSU should proceed. This is a major step if they abandon their style because the high school coaches can not develop 1 QB in all of this Louisiana talent.
This is a new angle from camp pumper. Now it's the high school coaches in the state of Louisiana that are at fault for LSU's lack of offensive production?
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:08 pm to nm1230
It doesnt help at all nega look around at the other schools in the SEC.It is what it is. U dont hear Miles whining about it. But hardly ever 1 guy in this talented state? Head Shaker to say the least.
But OK bright guy. What is your plan to convince a big time QB to leave state and friends and play at LSU? They need your informed advice. I mean we did go get a Super Bowl NFL coordinator to help with this. We've searched the Jucos, which we dont like to do. We've expanded cost and travel to our recruiting dept. We now recruit this position nationally.
Maybe your idea is a better one. Lets hear it.
But OK bright guy. What is your plan to convince a big time QB to leave state and friends and play at LSU? They need your informed advice. I mean we did go get a Super Bowl NFL coordinator to help with this. We've searched the Jucos, which we dont like to do. We've expanded cost and travel to our recruiting dept. We now recruit this position nationally.
Maybe your idea is a better one. Lets hear it.
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:23 pm to LSUANDY25
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look around at the other schools in the SEC.It is what it is
Are you trying to say other SEC schools can't get competent QB play and recruit guys to fit their system?
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U dont hear Miles whining about it
He makes 4.3 million dollars a year. I wouldn't expect him to whine about it.
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But OK bright guy. What is your plan to convince a big time QB to leave state and friends and play at LSU?
That's not my job. But you are correct, if a big time QB watched LSU this year it would scare them away.
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I mean we did go get a Super Bowl NFL coordinator to help with this.
He hired his buddy who had just been shitcanned by that NFL super bowl team mid-season en route to the Super Bowl.
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We've searched the Jucos, which we dont like to do
Are you on staff? Signing a JUCO is a last ditch effort to make up for poor development, misses in recruiting, and unexplained attrition at the position.
Did we not sign a guy from in state last year? Was he not highly rated? Was he not what they were looking for? I'm confused.
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:32 pm to nm1230
Yes.
There is literally no job in the world where you can use your past success to stop doing your job properly in the present. Literally none.
You are the highest paid employee in Louisiana. We should not be having these problems. The first sign of a decline/loser mentality is when you're relegated back to "remembering the 90's" and "we can't compete for championships every year" or "we're not like such and such school" or "this wasn't going to be our year anyway". Give me a break. That's what losers say.
I will not except mediocrity. I will not accept an offensive shitshow.
One thing I am happy about, is that there is no one else left to fire. So now the train stops at one place.
There is literally no job in the world where you can use your past success to stop doing your job properly in the present. Literally none.
You are the highest paid employee in Louisiana. We should not be having these problems. The first sign of a decline/loser mentality is when you're relegated back to "remembering the 90's" and "we can't compete for championships every year" or "we're not like such and such school" or "this wasn't going to be our year anyway". Give me a break. That's what losers say.
I will not except mediocrity. I will not accept an offensive shitshow.
One thing I am happy about, is that there is no one else left to fire. So now the train stops at one place.
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:34 pm to nm1230
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look around at the other schools in the SEC.It is what it is
1.Are you trying to say other SEC schools can't get competent QB play and recruit guys to fit their system?
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U dont hear Miles whining about it
2,He makes 4.3 million dollars a year. I wouldn't expect him to whine about it.
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But OK bright guy. What is your plan to convince a big time QB to leave state and friends and play at LSU?
3,That's not my job. But you are correct, if a big time QB watched LSU this year it would scare them away.
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4.I mean we did go get a Super Bowl NFL coordinator to help with this.
He hired his buddy who had just been shitcanned by that NFL super bowl team mid-season en route to the Super Bowl.
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We've searched the Jucos, which we dont like to do
5.Are you on staff? Signing a JUCO is a last ditch effort to make up for poor development, misses in recruiting, and unexplained attrition at the position.
6.Did we not sign a guy from in state last year? Was he not highly rated? Was he not what they were looking for? I'm confused.
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1.No
2.ok
3.Just like a nega always on the monday morning couch bitching but never a solution.
4.Who also developed Brees and Flacco- but hiring his buddy is the nega take congrats. This hire was about getting OOS QB's to consider LSU and to fix the offense in general.But no argument here. Have it your way, buddy.
5.We agree on this point.
6. The high schools produced one. Wow and he's wearing purple and Gold.Go figure. Still confused?
look around at the other schools in the SEC.It is what it is
1.Are you trying to say other SEC schools can't get competent QB play and recruit guys to fit their system?
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U dont hear Miles whining about it
2,He makes 4.3 million dollars a year. I wouldn't expect him to whine about it.
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But OK bright guy. What is your plan to convince a big time QB to leave state and friends and play at LSU?
3,That's not my job. But you are correct, if a big time QB watched LSU this year it would scare them away.
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4.I mean we did go get a Super Bowl NFL coordinator to help with this.
He hired his buddy who had just been shitcanned by that NFL super bowl team mid-season en route to the Super Bowl.
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We've searched the Jucos, which we dont like to do
5.Are you on staff? Signing a JUCO is a last ditch effort to make up for poor development, misses in recruiting, and unexplained attrition at the position.
6.Did we not sign a guy from in state last year? Was he not highly rated? Was he not what they were looking for? I'm confused.
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1.No
2.ok
3.Just like a nega always on the monday morning couch bitching but never a solution.
4.Who also developed Brees and Flacco- but hiring his buddy is the nega take congrats. This hire was about getting OOS QB's to consider LSU and to fix the offense in general.But no argument here. Have it your way, buddy.
5.We agree on this point.
6. The high schools produced one. Wow and he's wearing purple and Gold.Go figure. Still confused?
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:37 pm to foshizzle
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You're getting a bit ahead of yourself. After the bowl game last year everyone was slobbering over Anthony Jenning's knob after he (as a true freshman) led the team to a win.
Absolutely false. I "and I am sure most LSU fans" were jacked after Jennings had that one game series winning drive against Arkansas. I was completely worried shitless after watching Jennings in the bowl game against Iowa and we got exactly this season out of Jennings what we saw in that bowl game.
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OSU fans are doing the same tonight
Your kidding right? Ohio's QB play was freaking outstanding last night compared to how Jenning played last year vs Iowa.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:39 pm to LSUANDY25
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1.No
2.ok
3.Just like a nega always on the monday morning couch bitching but never a solution.
4.Who also developed Brees and Flacco- but hiring his buddy is the nega take congrats. This hire was about getting OOS QB's to consider LSU. But no argument here.have it your way, buddy.
5.We agree on this point.
6. The high schools produced one. Wow and he's wearing purple and Gold.Go figure. Still confused?
At this point you are contradicting yourself. I don't even think you know what point you are trying to make.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:45 pm to LSUANDY25
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Why cant Louisiana develop a SEC QB in high school?
You can say whatever you want about this 2 QB's but there are 2 QB's from Louisiana that are starting in the SEC - Prescott and Wallace. Just happens that LSU basically passed on both QB's.
And if you add Harris who I believe after Jennings shite show performances at the end of the year, oh who am I kidding his shite show performances during the entire year Harris should have been the starter for the last 2 games of the season if not sooner.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:46 pm to nm1230
Still confused? Where are these contradictions u speak of.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:48 pm to tigerfoot
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Yeah, well you can point to the weak big10, If we played someone like Wisconsin, we would hang 55 on em too!
I hope you are joking because you are a dumb-arse if you aren't. We did play Wisco this year and if it weren't for Gordon not playing in the 2nd half because of being nicked up we would have probably lost that game.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:52 pm to LSUANDY25
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Sure would be a little easier if the state could produce one occasionally.
You can say what you want about these guys but the facts are they are starters in the SEC on teams that are both ranked above LSU - Prescott and Wallace both Louisiana High School products.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:53 pm to Dudebro2
dudebro2
They missed on Wallace and Prescott that is fair but its also hindsight..
Its too early to rate their development of Harris. I like the OC and think Harris will be a great one when its all said and done.
They missed on Wallace and Prescott that is fair but its also hindsight..
Its too early to rate their development of Harris. I like the OC and think Harris will be a great one when its all said and done.
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:58 pm to goatman1419
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OMG another let's compare LSU to OHIO never plays anyone ST.
goatman1419 are you freaking serious?
Hey both teams had a common opponent Wisconsin. All I can tell you is that Ohio States 3rd string QB played like a Heisman trophy candidate last night. When LSU played Wisconsin Jennings looked like a 3rd string QB instead of a starter.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:01 pm to JazzyJeff
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So what you said in a very long winded way was, "Les, you can't coach"
Not QB's that is for sure, the evidence is overwhelming.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:12 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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You do realize Miles beat the same team this year that OSU beat....
With Anthony Jennings making his second start...
You do realize that we barely beat Wisconsin right? If Gordon plays in the 2nd half on top of two of their starting LB's also went down in the first half and didn't play in the 2nd half, if those players play in the 2nd half I honestly think we lose by 21points the way we were playing. Now we will never know because they didn't and we squeaked by and won the game. Great we won but my point was simple and we can use the Wisconsin game to prove it.
Ohio States 3rd string QB started his first game in a Big Ten championship game, against a Wisconsin team that we already beat but barely, and looked like a Heisman Trophy candidate with the way he played last night. And he replaced 2 QB's that also had Heisman trophy talk about them in the same year.
LSU's QB "Jennings" looked like he was the 3rd string QB coming in for the starter and 2nd string QB that got hurt in the same game. That is how bad his play was.
Ohio St is able to develop 3 QB's to play like Heisman Trophy Candidates in ONE FREAKING YEAR, we can't even develop a starter for ONE GAME!
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