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re: Leonard Fournette Looked better last night

Posted on 9/14/14 at 3:54 pm to
Posted by la champ1
Member since Oct 2012
1435 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 3:54 pm to
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He needs to learn that he is not bigger and faster than the opponent like he was in high school and find the hole rather than try to run over someone. Once this happens, he will live up to the hype.


Thought the difference the last two weeks is very clear. He is putting his foot in the ground and going forward even on the toss sweeps that he had trouble with before. He is carrying tacklers and outrunning people and very limited carries. He would not be averaging 6-7 yards a carry the last two games, if he wasn't doing those things. He has made the most of his carries so far, and when he does get the ball 20 times, we will see a great performance.
Posted by la champ1
Member since Oct 2012
1435 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:01 pm to
I agree MattLSU
Posted by johnkauf
Member since Jun 2014
32 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:48 pm to
In truth you don't know whether he will live up to expectations. None of us do. What I have heard about Fournette seems to bode well for him, though. He actually IS humble and he works hard. He is not as good as he is going to be, barring some kind of injury.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26626 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 5:30 pm to
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Leonard just needs to do what he's been doing his entire football career and he'll be fine. Everyone belived he was going to look like Adrian Peterson whipping arse with a branch from day one. In time his talents will mesh with expectations.


Peterson was also given enough carries and rhythm to get going early. We have a back come in for 3 plays, take him out, th3 another back for 3-4 plays, take him out, so on and so forth. It is insanely idiotic how we are using them. Make one guy the main back, the second his backup, and the 3rd/4th as relief/change of pace.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26626 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 5:41 pm to
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except for the 24 yard run for a TD (which was nice), LF had 9 rushes for 28 yards against a crappy opponent. Yes, I know you can't discount the long run, but you have to pay attention to the larger sample size of the rest of his carries.


Did you even watch the last 3 runs? He got three runs. Gained 4 yards on the first, did the stupid arse stretch play where he lost yards or went for no gain, and was hit as soon as he got the ball on the last one.

Like i have repeatedly said, the fact of the matter is that for a #1 RB recruit, we use him like a scat back/change of pace/decoy player. He gets zero time to get into a groove, and then we switch him out for another one.

Should we rag on Williams for his 4.6 ypc against SHSU where he had 14 carries? Should we rag on his 37 yards rushing against ULM, where 22 came on one play? Outside of that, he had 6 carries for 15 yards. Fournette is used as a decoy on the line where he could already have 6 TDs.

Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 5:45 pm to
We all realize that you and few others think LF is Jesus's kid brother.... A miracle worker.
Fact is through 3 football games he doesn't look any better or worse than 27,18 or 34.

I don't see any separation between our 4 backs.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98164 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 5:45 pm to
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Peterson was also given enough carries and rhythm to get going early. We have a back come in for 3 plays, take him out, th3 another back for 3-4 plays, take him out, so on and so forth. It is insanely idiotic how we are using them. Make one guy the main back, the second his backup, and the 3rd/4th as relief/change of pace.


No need to wear anybody out in September. We need fresh legs for the back half of the schedule.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77298 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 5:46 pm to
quote:

Leonard Fournette Looked better last night


:swag:
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Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58596 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 5:49 pm to
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Lol u mad


Nah. Just not a dick to a kid that's not even a year out of high school. But keep being an internet badass. I'm impressed.
Posted by Dynamis
Member since Sep 2006
661 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 6:06 pm to
I think tempering expectations is wise. He looks like a good back that will help lsu win football games. That's it for now. Forget next AP, I would be satisfied if he became the next Jeremy Hill or Steven Ridley. We'll see.

Magee or Hilliard goes in and gets 2 yards and he's "fat and slow", fournette gets 2 yards and he "needs to get into a groove" or we are "not using him the right way". It's like some people have a personal vested interest in whether he actually lives up to the hype or not.
Posted by mytigger
Member since Jan 2008
14845 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 6:06 pm to
Not being a dick to the kid or an internet badass. I just said the kid was overhyped and based on what I've seen he's nowhere near the level of an Adrian Peterson. It's an unrealistic expectation. He's a good back and one day he may be an All-SEC type back, but he'll never live up to the hype that was created for him, he's just not that caliber of player.

If listening to someone's opinion makes you react like a little bitch you'll might want to find another place to play.
Posted by mytigger
Member since Jan 2008
14845 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 6:07 pm to
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Forget next AP, I would be satisfied if he became the next Jeremy Hill or Steven Ridley. We'll see.


ding ding.... we have a winner
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26626 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 6:21 pm to
quote:

We all realize that you and few others think LF is Jesus's kid brother.... A miracle worker. Fact is through 3 football games he doesn't look any better or worse than 27,18 or 34.

I don't see any separation between our 4 backs.


Alright blind fool, seems like I won't be responding anymore your nonsense. If you can't see the difference on tape already, you will never see it
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26626 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 6:27 pm to
quote:

Magee or Hilliard goes in and gets 2 yards and he's "fat and slow", fournette gets 2 yards and he "needs to get into a groove" or we are "not using him the right way". It's like some people have a personal vested interest in whether he actually lives up to the hype or not.


We are not "using him the right way", also, it seems like you are combining what I said with some crap somebody said about Magee. I think they should ride one guy for the most part like they have done since Miles has been here.

IMO, Fournette looks the best, and once he gets into SEC play, you'll see the big difference between him and the other guys on the roster.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 6:29 pm to
Apparent lots of posters can't see the difference.
You can though.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29263 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 6:31 pm to
it's the scheme. he's running into stacked boxes most of the time.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 6:31 pm to
How and why would that change from today til December?
Posted by MattLSU
New York
Member since Dec 2011
195 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 9:52 pm to
quote:

Fact is through 3 football games he doesn't look any better or worse than 27,18 or 34.



I honestly don't know what games you are watching. After watching the first 3 games if there was one back that you would want getting more touches it would be #7. Hilliard and Williams look like solid workhorse types...Fournette clearly looks like the better player.

As for the Peterson comparisons, anyone that believes they have determined Fournette's ceiling or floor based on 30 carries in 3 games is an absolute fool. Basically what it comes down to is Fournette didn't light up Wisconsin..therefor he is not Adrian Peterson. At this point I think some posters might need to go back and watch Petersons first 3 games of his frosh year...and they will come away with a few things....A)Peterson was playing alongside the reigning Heisman trophy winner in senior quarterback Jason White(who finished 3rd in Heisman voting in 2004). B)Not every Peterson run was an 80 yard td run. He actually had 2 and 3 yard runs mixed in as well. C)Peterson wasn't lighting up the 85 Chicago bears his first 3 games. His come out game was Oregon...a team known for offense, not bristling hard nosed defense.(This is in response to posters complaining Fourette didn't dominate "crap" defenses..even though Louisiana Monroes coach said it was the best defense he ever had...which might be mildly better than a crap defense). Wisconsin, despite replacing many players, is a program that has strong run D. Case in point they gave up only 4 runs of 20 or more yards for all of 2013. Wisconsin wasn't just beating up on LF..they were killing everyone...till that NT went down in the second half. The guy who reaped the benefit of better run blocking in the second half was Hilliard. LSU had no margin for error, they were down..wasnt Fournettes time, LSU had to lean on the senior.

The other factor to consider...Oklahoma was force feeding Peterson the ball. Peterson was averaging OVER 20 carries a game, through 3 games. Fournette has carried the ball more than 10 times once this year, yet he is the second leading rusher and will likely surpass Hilliard within the next two games.

So, when you are sitting on your couch patting yourself on the back for determining that Fournette is no Peterson, never will be, and that we'd be lucky to have him be the next Ridley..you might want to take a deep breath, realize you are actually reacting not to Fournettes play, but to your own wild expectations, and that maybe you have overlooked some other factors: Like how defenses might game plan a defending Heisman trophy winner coming off a 40 touchdown season and into his senior year, vs how they might defend a true sophomore qb coming into his second career start(after a first start that included 82 yards passing, and a 36.8 completion pct). Hint hint...there are more reasons for AP running for 400 yards in his first 3 games of 2004 and Travin Dural going for 370 yards in his first 3 games of 2014 than just AP being the next Jim Brown,and Dural being really fast...how the defenses game plan their respective teams has a lot to do with it.
This post was edited on 9/14/14 at 10:50 pm
Posted by MattLSU
New York
Member since Dec 2011
195 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 10:03 pm to
Can't believe I typed all that from my phone.....you guys are getting me fired up.
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31157 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 10:11 pm to
Kid is improving with every game.
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