re: Left Handed Pitchers

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Many teams struggled against lefties, including us.

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Is the myth that the 2023 LSU baseball team couldn’t hit lefties still going around?

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Now do right handers...

The book on LSU was they struggled against lefties.

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Not hitting left handers as good as right handed =\= struggling against left handers.

LSU was elite at hitting right handers. They were just good at hitting left handers.

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Take this loss and move on.

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We hit 12 points higher vs lefties. This team was an all-time great team offensively. Technically, we didn't struggle against anybody.

I am also referring to OUR pitching. Guys who will be pitching against OTHER teams. Our hitting was better against lefties than any other team, relatively. Did any other team hit .300 against lefties? NO. Relatively speaking, almost all teams hit worse against lefties than righties. Given that most teams have more right handed hitters than left handed, the difference is significant. That's why coaches love lots of lefties.

It has nothing to do with whether an all-time great hitting team hit lefties pretty well... I'm sure the '27 Yankees hit lefties pretty well, too. They also probably hit righties better than they hit lefties. A lefty with decent stuff is better than a righty with decent stuff, and water is wet.

We have a roster full of talented southpaws. It's a good thing and not irrelevant. Get over it.

The goal post moving you've done ITT is impressive

Your first post

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Many teams struggled against lefties, including us

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Your last post

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Technically, we didn't struggle against anybody.

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You have a less than good understanding of how runs are generated. Equating batting average to runs is not good my dude. Especially when factoring in the extra games

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I know how runs are generated. Extra hits generate extra runs. Over the season, our runs per hit ratio was 85%. For ever 100 hits, we scored 85 runs. That's our team. Other teams didn't do as well, obviously. In order to be that successful, you have to hit a lot of homeruns and hit for extra bases.

Putting a runner on base stresses the defense, as well. Hitters hit better and defenses make more mistakes when you have a runner on. How many times does a runner take an extra base because the throw from the out field goes home? You can't score from third on a wild pitch unless you have a runner on third. Obviously, you can't really determine how much this played a factor any more than you can tell which of the extra hits we scored on.

So, in the simplest terms, if you have 2500 at bats and bat 15 points higher, that is about 38 extra hits on the season. In LSU's case, that's about 50 hits, because each of those 38 hits led to an extra at bat, and every hit on those extra hits led to another at bat. Going back to the statistic that we scored 85 runs per 100 hits, 50 extra hits leads to 42.5 runs over the course of the season, which is about .6 extra runs per game. Insignificant?

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In the simplest terms, if you have 2500 at bats and bat 15 points higher

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In the simplest terms, we didn’t have anywhere near 2500 ABs against LHP on the season. Citing the overall ABs (which was 2412, not 2500) when talking about BA against just LHP does not follow mathematical logic. We had 759 ABs against LHP. We hit .302 overall against LHP and .312 against RHP. We would have needed 8 more hits against LHP in those 759 ABs to hit .312. That is, in fact, a negligible difference.

We also hit better against LHP than RHP in SEC play. Again, let it go

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Extra hits generate extra runs. Over the season, our runs per hit ratio was 85%. For ever 100 hits, we scored 85 runs

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You are totally ignoring walks, hbp, ops, much better measurements to determine how runs are scored. BA is archaic.
With that said, we had 759 at bats vs lefties this year. We got 229 hits. A simple addition of 8 hits (8 bloops) would have us with an average of .312 against lefties too. Thats pretty insignificant over the course of the season.
So lets use your 100 hits to 85 runs ratio despite the fact that its damn near useless. That extra 8 hits correlates to an extra 6.8 runs on the season. 6.8 runs over the course of 60 damns games, that insignificant.

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Putting a runner on base stresses the defense, as well. Hitters hit better and defenses make more mistakes when you have a runner on. How many times does a runner take an extra base because the throw from the out field goes home? You can't score from third on a wild pitch unless you have a runner on third

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You are just making shite up. There is no statistical data pointing out that teams hit better in the long run with runners on base.

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So, in the simplest terms, if you have 2500 at bats and bat 15 points higher, that is about 38 extra hits on the season. In LSU's case, that's about 50 hits, because each of those 38 hits led to an extra at bat, and every hit on those extra hits led to another at bat. Going back to the statistic that we scored 85 runs per 100 hits, 50 extra hits leads to 42.5 runs over the course of the season, which is about .6 extra runs per game. Insignificant?

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This post is insignificant because you used a season total of at bats instead of just left handed at bats and used 15 points instead of 10 points (the actual difference).
Its more like .1 runs per game using your equation, which is pretty damn insignificant.

OPS, despite being flawed because you're just adding two stats with different denominators, is actually the stat most closely correlated with scoring runs, on a team level.

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No matter how many times you say it. We struggled against great pitching.

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No matter how many times you say it, we hit worse against lefties. EVERBODY DOES. The difference was less this year than it is most years because we had a roster of major league hitters.

This is not a statistical anomaly. It's this way almost every year.

Left handed pitchers with average stuff perform better than right handed pitchers with average stuff on average.

I don't know how else to say it. Having a stable of left handed pitchers is good because teams don't hit lefties as well as righties most of the time.

You can't compare Skenes to any other pitcher in college baseball, because he has better stuff than anybody else. He's a unicorn.

Remember when Dylan Crews was struggling in the latter half of the season and his average went from .530 all the way down to .430. He was in a slump, no question. But was he? He was still hitting something like .350, during his slump right? It's all relative.

What did LSU hit against righties?