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Left Handed Pitchers

Posted on 7/11/23 at 7:59 am
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24771 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 7:59 am
Having all these lefties is not only gives us flexibility for in game adjustments and situational moves, but our hitters will get plenty of practice against these guys.

Many teams struggled against lefties, including us. Hitters don't see as many lefties in practice or games, so they have to adjust.

Herring
Loer
Coleman
Jump
Brown
Anderson
Johnson

Have we ever had this much southpaw talent on one team? We could potentially have more LHPs than RHPs.
Posted by TigerMonkey7
Member since Jul 2021
1349 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:00 am to
We hit .300 against LHP. That is not struggling.
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
16167 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:00 am to
Until Johnson lands in BR I’m not getting my hopes up. Way too many moving parts to count him on the roster right now.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278529 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:05 am to
RH hitter traditionally hit LHP pitching very well
Posted by deathvalleyfreak43
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13235 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:10 am to
I remember Johnson made a comment In the post season last year when we were struggling with pitching that stuck with me. He said something to the affect of “we’ll never be in this situation again” when talking about our lack of left handed pitching.. he wasn’t lying. Lol
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
8998 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:14 am to
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Many teams struggled against lefties, including us.


This is a false narrative we actually did well against Lefties. We hit .300 against them this year. We had a few outings where we "struggled" and the pitcher happened to be Left handed but it wasn't a theme.

quote:

Have we ever had this much southpaw talent on one team?


Jay stated that you win with left handed pitching and left handed batters so I would expect going forward we will have a lot of LHP in the bullpen.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42795 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:14 am to
My biggest concern with johnson is his health
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
7902 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:16 am to
Not all of those guys will play a significant role on our staff next year, but it is nice to know that we at least have them on the team.
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
2068 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:16 am to
Since Jay's Arrival the team has actually been pretty successful against LHP.
Posted by Flanders
Bham
Member since May 2008
9842 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:18 am to
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Many teams struggled against lefties, including us. Hitters don't see as many lefties in practice or games, so they have to adjust.
Why do y'all try to keep this narrative alive? We hit .300 against lefties and I believe .292 in SEC play against lefties.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24771 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:19 am to
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We hit .300 against LHP. That is not struggling.


Now do right handers...

The book on LSU was they struggled against lefties.

Left handlers generally hit better against righties, but the difference at the college level is not as clear cut for right handers vs left handed pitchers. That is why left handers are in such demand. Statistically, there are more right handed hitters, so you would think that being a left handed pitcher would be a disadvantage. However, anyone who has ever played baseball knows that every left handed kid that can throw at all gets a chance to pitch...
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66680 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:22 am to
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Now do right handers... The book on LSU was they struggled against lefties.


It was way worse last year to be fair.

we definitely weren’t as good but this year we were still pretty good.

we struggled with good lefties like most teams but we smashed shitty lefties. last year we had trouble with both.
Posted by Flanders
Bham
Member since May 2008
9842 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:30 am to
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Now do right handers...
IF I remember correctly we hit .312 against righties.

ETA: And .302 against righties in SEC play.
This post was edited on 7/11/23 at 8:32 am
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24771 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:31 am to
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Why do y'all try to keep this narrative alive? We hit .300 against lefties and I believe .292 in SEC play against lefties.


Its all relative. Even .300 against lefties was still lower than what we hit overall. Didnt we hit about 15 points higher against righties?

Lefties with average stuff can be very effective. None of our lefties had the stuff that Skenes, Floyd, Hurd, Shores, or Edwards had. Yet they were effective, because most batters do better against right handed pitchers.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77518 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:32 am to
10-15 points lower is basically negligible
Posted by Flanders
Bham
Member since May 2008
9842 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:34 am to
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Its all relative. Even .300 against lefties was still lower than what we hit overall. Didnt we hit about 15 points higher against righties?
LSU led the SEC in hitting even when you split it righty vs lefty.
Posted by DCTXLA
Member since Jul 2022
3459 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:34 am to
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Its all relative. Even .300 against lefties was still lower than what we hit overall.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64858 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:38 am to
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Many teams struggled against lefties, including us

Except we didn’t struggle against lefties
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24771 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:46 am to
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we struggled with good lefties like most teams but we smashed shitty lefties. last year we had trouble with both.




True. It is also true that we hit lefties better than almost everyone, but we were still better against righties.

Most teams bat higher against righties, so having more left handed pitchers is a plus.

I remember hearing how Wes Johnson moved the rubber on the mound to one side so in order to let the batters practice hitting balls coming from the same angle as a left hander would throw.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24771 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 9:03 am to
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10-15 points lower is basically negligible


Not really. For one at bat, it is, but not over the course of a season. Our BA for the year was 15 points higher than the next best team in the SEC. We scored 110 more runs and got 250 more at bats than the runner up. Some of that was due to us playing more games.

If you consider half a run per game to be statistically insignificant, then you're right. I don't view half a run per game as insignificant.
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