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re: Lee is a Charger
Posted on 4/29/12 at 1:30 am to DP40
Posted on 4/29/12 at 1:30 am to DP40
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Mett had a cut throwing hand and couldn't play and Lee was supposed to graduate in Dec and when he didn't it took a scholly away from a player(Gunner Kiel) and Miles was NEVER gonna play Lee again because of that.
This is exactly what I heard too. It became obvious when Miles was asked by a reporter if it was Lee's grades , that kept him on the sideline. Miles couldn't directly mention names or grade issues, so he said that sometimes players need to focus more on school work and not football
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Posted on 4/29/12 at 1:33 am to Rickdaddy4188
This is absolutely pathetic that a thread started to congratulate Jarrett Lee on getting signed as a UDFA turns into a full on JJ/JL flame-a-thon. Give it the frick up people. No one is as pissed off about that situation as I am, but grow up and move on. Nearly every program in the nation would kill to have the talent we have coming back this year.
Posted on 4/29/12 at 3:17 am to LSU=Champions
I'd like to be a fly on the wall for the conversations between Rivers and Lee. I'm sure they'll have plenty to talk about concerning development of Stephen Rivers and the LSU coaching staff. It's great to see another Tiger getting his shot at the NFL. 
Posted on 4/29/12 at 3:22 am to TorchtheFlyingTiger
Flood twitter with "congratulations" to Jarrett Lee.
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This post was edited on 4/29/12 at 3:25 am
Posted on 4/29/12 at 3:48 am to DP40
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Mett had a cut throwing hand and couldn't play
he didnt know the play book.
quote:
Lee was supposed to graduate in Dec and when he didn't it took a scholly away from a
a. it took the scholly away from patrick miller, we thought kiel was coming here at the time.
b. he had to go pass an intersession class to be eligible for the BCS game because he failed said a class.
so stop with giving lee all this credit and bashing jefferson. both qbs sucked at LSU not all their fault. blame perriloux for his stupidty and forcing both to play before they were ready. blame fricking crowton for not developing either qb. they both had some improvement under krags but it wasnt enough.
quit blaming lee and jefferson, both were the only qbs we had for their four playing years and played the best that both could. they both gave their sweat and blood for LSU, with both getting booed off the field in tiger stadium a some points in their career. so let dead dogs lie and move on, they are both gone. we have a new season coming up with a new qb, so lets quit the jj/jlee debate and let it fricking go.
Posted on 4/29/12 at 4:13 am to Rickdaddy4188
quote:Actually, it's not. Lee's record was 9-0, which cannot be bettered as it is a perfect record. Jefferson did not win the National Championship Game. And there exists the theoretical possibility that any other sequence of events (including playing Lee instead of not playing him) could have resulted in a different outcome. The only sequence of events whose outcome is certain is the sequence which actually occurred, and that is that Jefferson played, Lee did not, and we lost. Of course, that in no way suggests that Lee would have won that game, but it is a fact that he could have won that game. Of course, it is also a fact that I could have won that game, though I would classify that possibility as "extremely remote" at best.
It's actually the exact opposite of a fact.
Posted on 4/29/12 at 4:23 am to LSU=Champions
I wanted lee to be the starter. What are u talking about?
This post was edited on 4/29/12 at 4:24 am
Posted on 4/29/12 at 4:28 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Quit the bull shite act. Your post history on this subject is full of this type of false information. You always start " I wanted Lee to remains starter" then go the opposite direction
It's not a bullshite act you count. You do know that JJ was a part of the team as well. Just because I wanted Lee to be the starter doesn't mean I can't see that his play was also inconstant. The horrible game against Kentucky, Oregon and Bama. I can want lee to remain starter and point out JJ good games too. I'm not invested in either one. Check my post history during the season. Just because I like Lee doesnt mean I'm frickin blind to his play or that I need to talk down JJ. THEY ARE BOTH TIGERS.
Posted on 4/29/12 at 4:30 am to King Joey
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quote: JJ could not have had a better record this year than J Lee. J Lee could have won Jan 9 when JJ didn't. FACT
This statement is an opinion. Period.
Posted on 4/29/12 at 4:37 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Congrats to JLee. I'm happy for the kid. I'm also happy he Had a good season last year to erase 08 from a lot of people's minds
Hey count. I guess you missed this post in this thread. Just because I like Lee as the starter doesn't mean I'm blind to his bad play. One day you'll become a true LSU fan and not just a fan of certain players. I was definately a pro JJ guy, BECAUSE HE frickIN PLAYED FR THE TEAM I CHEER FOR. also why would I put on an act while being an anonymous poster of a site? You're frickin stupid.
Posted on 4/29/12 at 4:41 am to tigermike5
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quit blaming lee and jefferson, both were the only qbs we had for their four playing years and played the best that both could. they both gave their sweat and blood for LSU, with both getting booed off the field in tiger stadium a some points in their career. so let dead dogs lie and move on, they are both gone. we have a new season coming up with a new qb, so lets quit the jj/jlee debate and let it fricking go.
AMEN
Posted on 4/29/12 at 5:32 am to Rickdaddy4188
quote:
Thisstatement is an opinion. Period.
Wait, what? That statement was fact. You might want to buy a dictionary.
Posted on 4/29/12 at 5:53 am to Rickdaddy4188
quote:Ooo-kay. Then please explain how Jefferson could have posted better than a 9-0 record in those 9 games?
This statement is an opinion. Period.
Or are you suggesting that in the infinite possibilities of the cosmos there is zero possibility that the outcome of the National Championship Game could have been different if we had done anything differently (like, for example, played Lee)? And please describe for us the magic you use to know alternative possibilities without any possibility for error. I know a ton of physicists who would love to pick your brain on a wide range of subjects.
Look, the point is that his statement, while entirely factual, is also largely meaningless. Yes, Jefferson could not have improved on the record because there is no record in 9 games better than 9-0. And yes, Lee could have won the game because anything that has not already happened is possible (just like we could have won with T-Bob playing QB and Jefferson, Lee and Mettenberger playing OL; highly highly unlikely, but possible). And yes, Jefferson did play the whole game and we did not win. Those are facts, but they offer little of value to this (or, really, any other conversation). None of it suggests that the outcome of any of those games would have been different if we'd done things differently. In fact, nothing in his statement actually suggests that anything would even likely be different if we'd done things differently. All his statement was was a simple recitation of events that have already transpired and the observation of one of an infinite number of possible alternative situations with potetially different outcomes.
Posted on 4/29/12 at 5:58 am to Mr LSU2001
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I really hate the JJ v/s Lee thing but you guys do realize that we ran the ball 73 % of the time... and won games Running the ball... and with strong Defense.... Can't remeber one game were we relied on either one... Could have sworn everygame that we did get in trouble it was either a special teams play of running the ball that got us over the hump.... Or did i miss the big passing games these guys had when we couldn't run..... I could have sworn we saw panic and int's against the team who stuffed the run.... an WV Oregon would have been same result. You do know we threw for less than 100 yard against oregon and less than 200 v/s WV.... Not saying i wouldn't have rathered Lee but lets not get stupid we would have been were we were no matter what.... A powerful running game and Def won us game it didn't matter who played QB...now if mett played i think we would have a crystal ball in BR... but with these to it didn't matter which is way we ran and ran and ran some more...
This is ignorant. Our offense was better with Lee. There were key Lee passes in the Oregon and WV that JJ could not have made. It's incredibly eye opening to watch the first 8 games and see a good LSU O.
Posted on 4/29/12 at 6:20 am to JBeam
Whitehurst was traded to seahawks in 2011 i think
Posted on 4/29/12 at 6:59 am to King Joey
I will be glad when this silliness stops. Neither QB was any good. Both played their hearts out but both were not nearly the players that LSU has at other positions. We won on defense and special teams. We also had a real stable of RBs. Our games were won via defense, special teams and taking the damn air out the ball.
Sure passes were completed by J Lee and even JJ. But, come on, neither were even middle tier SEC QBs over the last FOUR years. Its all relative -- you are pointing out that one is better than the other and neither were very productive. Telling me about a guy completing a pass is a bit short sighted. Sure, a pass was completed but geez, 8 men in the box with R Randle or Beckham being open by 6-8 yards isn't exactly slinging it
Why did neither throw to the TE? B/c they can't. Run a seam route and throw the ball and we beat BAMA by 21.
John Elway couldn't have done better than 9-0. You are reaching.
Without T. Matheiu turing the Oregon game we start 0-1.
Football is a team sport with attrition playing a major role. We just happened to be able to get the big plays via defense and special teams that put us in the lead time and time again. Then, hand off until the clock ran out.
I know... I'm a dumbass who doesn't know shite.
Sure passes were completed by J Lee and even JJ. But, come on, neither were even middle tier SEC QBs over the last FOUR years. Its all relative -- you are pointing out that one is better than the other and neither were very productive. Telling me about a guy completing a pass is a bit short sighted. Sure, a pass was completed but geez, 8 men in the box with R Randle or Beckham being open by 6-8 yards isn't exactly slinging it
Why did neither throw to the TE? B/c they can't. Run a seam route and throw the ball and we beat BAMA by 21.
John Elway couldn't have done better than 9-0. You are reaching.
Without T. Matheiu turing the Oregon game we start 0-1.
Football is a team sport with attrition playing a major role. We just happened to be able to get the big plays via defense and special teams that put us in the lead time and time again. Then, hand off until the clock ran out.
I know... I'm a dumbass who doesn't know shite.
Posted on 4/29/12 at 7:24 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Been a rough few years at the QB position
Rougher than it needed to be. This was Les' downfall. That is pinned squarely on his shoulders.
Posted on 4/29/12 at 7:35 am to Bayou
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Why did neither throw to the TE? B/c they can't. Run a seam route and throw the ball
Guess you missed the casino de sol game...lee bit that a number of times. Once for a touchdown. It was his bread and butter that game. Helped.him stand out
Posted on 4/29/12 at 7:48 am to Bayou
Congrats J Lee. I have liked the Charges ever since they picked up LT and JH.
Bayou- Although I agree that the string of interceptions paved the road for a tumultuous QB situation, it can hardly be placed solely on JL's shoulders. Choosing to "coordinate" offensive plays that directly challenged the fledgling QB's weakness was stupid. Calling those flats passes on our own 30 when there was no chance in hell we could stop the TD if intercepted was even worse.
Lee had humility about his faults, took the initiative to work hard, accept the criticism, and improved over the years. Attitude is everything.
Bayou- Although I agree that the string of interceptions paved the road for a tumultuous QB situation, it can hardly be placed solely on JL's shoulders. Choosing to "coordinate" offensive plays that directly challenged the fledgling QB's weakness was stupid. Calling those flats passes on our own 30 when there was no chance in hell we could stop the TD if intercepted was even worse.
Lee had humility about his faults, took the initiative to work hard, accept the criticism, and improved over the years. Attitude is everything.
Posted on 4/29/12 at 8:20 am to Bleeding purple
I don't feel like getting full on into it but two things.
1)Apparently, 32 NFL Head Coaches, GMs etc agree with what I and others have always said about JJ.
2)If JL makes an NFL team, we can have a billion of these threads and people can bitch all they want but the EVIDENCE will be on the side of those who say Miles was either completely retarded the last two years or he was completely unethical. There isn't third choice.
1)Apparently, 32 NFL Head Coaches, GMs etc agree with what I and others have always said about JJ.
2)If JL makes an NFL team, we can have a billion of these threads and people can bitch all they want but the EVIDENCE will be on the side of those who say Miles was either completely retarded the last two years or he was completely unethical. There isn't third choice.
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