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re: La'el Collins reportedly signing with Cowboys

Posted on 5/7/15 at 9:08 am to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65364 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 9:08 am to
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But in your little Matlock mind he was always a suspect

Well I am an attorney and have worked as a prosecutor in the past, so maybe I have a little more knowledge than you about how a criminal investigation works. But please, by all means, please continue to tell me how thse types of things work.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11305 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 9:08 am to
Do you know that someone could be under suspicion of involvement in a crime yet not officially named as a suspect?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96187 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 9:08 am to
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Well I am an attorney and have worked as a prosecutor in the past, so maybe I have a little more knowledge than you about how a criminal investigation works. But please, by all means, please continue to tell me how thse types of things work
I dont care if you are Magnum P.I. You were wrong. But sweet drop of the "I am an attorney" line
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96187 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 9:09 am to
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Do you know that someone could be under suspicion of involvement in a crime yet not officially named as a suspect?
Sure do. That wasnt La'el though. Never was. Pretty obvious too
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 9:10 am to
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Well I am an attorney and have worked as a prosecutor in the past


So, you were unsuccessful?
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11305 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 9:10 am to
Ok get back to boosting your post count.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96187 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 9:12 am to
See, Asgard Device actually gained my e-respect. He came in and admitted he was completely wrong. Others, still digging holes



Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35490 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 9:12 am to
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Do you know that someone could be under suspicion of involvement in a crime yet not officially named as a suspect?
Happens all the time. It seems that 50% of police departments never announce a suspect unless they have trouble locating him.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65364 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 9:15 am to
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dont care if you are Magnum P.I. You were wrong.


Again, I'll put these in simple terms for you. People who are suspects are not publicly named suspects until charges are ready to be filed, regardless of whether or not they are/are not actually suspects in the minds of the police department and/or DA's office. There is a lot of departmental liability involved in officially naming someone as a suspect. People have explained this pretty important fact to you all throughout this thread, but you refuse to accept or acknowledge it. You seem to think you were proven right simply because he passed the paternity test. You're more than welcome to feel that way, but he wasn't asked to do a paternity for mundane reasons.
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But sweet drop of the "I am an attorney" line

Well, I am. I'm sorry I have direct experience and am trying to provide you with a little bit of information of how investigations typically work.

At the end of the day, everyone is happy he seems to have been cleared of any wrongdoing. But please stop showing your ignorance. This isn't television.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65364 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 9:16 am to
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So, you were unsuccessful?

no, I wanted to make money. Not a lot of that to be made on a government salary
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96187 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 9:16 am to
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Again, I'll put these in simple terms for you. People who are suspects are not publicly named suspects until charges are ready to be filed, regardless of whether or not they are/are not actually suspects in the minds of the police department and/or DA's office. There is a lot of departmental liability involved in officially naming someone as a suspect. People have explained this pretty important fact to you all throughout this thread, but you refuse to accept or acknowledge it. You seem to think you were proven right simply because he passed the paternity test. You're more than welcome to feel that way, but he wasn't asked to do a paternity for mundane reasons.
And sometimes people who arent suspects are not named as ones either. You are using the logic that anyone not named a suspect is one. People get questioned in crimes who are not a suspect whatsoever
This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 9:17 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96187 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 9:17 am to
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But please stop showing your ignorance
That would be you. There is absolutely nothing besides your "gut feeling" that ever made La'el a suspect.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65364 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 9:18 am to
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You are using the logic that anyone not named a suspect is one.

no I'm using the logic that someone asked to take a paternity test in a double murder investigation is a suspect
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People get questioned in crimes who are not a suspect whatsoever


that's very true, but they aren't asked to provide a sample of their dna
This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 9:20 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96187 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 9:19 am to
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no I'm using the logic that someone asked to take a paternity test in a double murder investigation is a suspect
Well that seems pretty ignorant to me
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79144 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 9:21 am to
I have felt a nagging feeling of dread about Lael's possible involvement since Day One. I pray to God that my intuition has betrayed me, as it looks like it has. I don't know if I could sustain something that ugly involving one of my favorite LSU players. This has really stressed me out big-time in a way that it probably shouldn't.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11305 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 9:21 am to
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There is absolutely nothing besides your "gut feeling" that ever made La'el a suspect.


Absolutely nothing? Then why is his name even brought up in this investigation? Why did he lose millions of dollars because of this terrible event (both in subject and timing).
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65364 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 9:22 am to
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Well that seems pretty ignorant to me

explain, in your opinion, why you think it was important, in the scope of the investigation, to determine the father of the child? and in your opinion, why was collins singled out?

(and please do not give me an answer regarding child support or giving him the chance to grieve the loss of his child)
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96187 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 9:23 am to
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Absolutely nothing? Then why is his name even brought up in this investigation?
Because he knew Mills and could have been linked to the baby trying to survive maybe? Being a suspect means the cops think you are invloved in the crime. Nothing the cops released or they way they handled it pointed towards them thinking La'el was involved

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Why did he lose millions of dollars because of this terrible event (both in subject and timing).

I shouldnt have to explain this
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70778 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 9:24 am to
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Then why is his name even brought up in this investigation? Why did he lose millions of dollars because of this terrible event


Because BRPD sucks at what they do. I bet they'd have the murderer by now if he had an expired inpection sticker.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96187 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 9:24 am to
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in the scope of the investigation, to determine the father of the child?
The child was fighting for it's life. There was a need to figure out the father of the child for multiple reasons.
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and in your opinion, why was collins singled out?
I think collins was named by the family as a potential FATHER, not murderer. And he was made public because he is famous.
This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 9:25 am
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