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re: Kiper has Tre White going #12 overall in newest mock
Posted on 2/17/17 at 8:03 am to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 2/17/17 at 8:03 am to Rickdaddy4188
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So using this logic where were all these programs beating down the door to make Coach O even a Defensive coordinator, let alone Head Coach.
And using this logic, Dabo Sweeney and Jim Harbaugh never would be head coaches.
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 8:49 am to RATeamWannabe
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And using this logic, Dabo Sweeney and Jim Harbaugh never would be head coaches.
You may want to brush up on Jim Harbaugh's coaching career before Stanford.
Dabo had been the playcaller at Clemson and neither of them were 55 years old.
And neitherof them had been a massive failure at their 1 HC job.
Try again.
This post was edited on 2/17/17 at 8:52 am
Posted on 2/17/17 at 9:08 am to Rickdaddy4188
Really? Link where they were coordinators please
Posted on 2/17/17 at 9:38 am to Lester Earl
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stickier than PP and better hips than Claiborne.
dude
He does.
I picked one trait from each he did better. I didn't say he was a better player than either...although I do think he's every bit the player Claiborne is, if not better. He doesn't attack the ball in the air quite as well as Claiborne, but I think he does everything else better. No, he didn't get the notoriety MC got.
Peterson relied on athleticism a ton in college and would let his guy get away from him, behind him, etc. and just make up ground because he's a freak of nature. Tre is stickier than him.
Clearly he's not the generational athlete PP is though and doesn't have the same ball skills.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:27 am to RATeamWannabe
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Really? Link where they were coordinators please
Harbaugh was the head coach at the University of San Diego before Stanford.
Dabo Sweeney was the play caller during his interim tenure.
Neither coach was 55 and neither coach was getting hired at one of the best football programs in cfb.
There is a huge difference in hiring an inexperienced coach at a program that hadnt won a conference title in 20 years, that also hadnt had a top 20 finish in over a decade and hiring an experienced coach at one of the most successful programs of the last 15 years.
Coach O has had a great off season but to equate his hiring at LSU to the hiring of coaches at Clemson (at the time)and Stanford is crazy.
This post was edited on 2/17/17 at 10:31 am
Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:29 am to TheCaterpillar
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Peterson relied on athleticism a ton in college and would let his guy get away from him
I love when people post things like this as if they have seen the all 22 film. The things you said about PP cant be seen on a tv broadcast on a consistent basis.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:34 am to Rickdaddy4188
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I love when people post things like this as if they have seen the all 22 film. The things you said about PP cant be seen on a tv broadcast on a consistent basis.
In college he did this a lot man. He was an all time great, but he has really gotten better in the pros at being a CB. He was insanely aggressive in college because he could always make up for mistakes because he's such a freak.
I don't know why this bothers people. He was awesome, I just said Tre White sticks to his man better, that is literally the only thing he does better at this point in their careers.
He was the PFF stickiest CB in the country with the advanced stats, its not like I'm making this up.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:41 am to TheCaterpillar
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college he did this a lot man.
Again, unless you have seen all 22 film, youre just guessing. You cant make this statement by watching a tv broadcast. Come on.
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I don't know why this bothers people. He was awesome, I just said Tre White sticks to his man better,
Because you have no idea if this is true unless youve seen all 2 film.
Tv broadcast dont follow dbs or wrs.c
This post was edited on 2/17/17 at 10:43 am
Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:48 am to TheCaterpillar
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He was the PFF stickiest CB in the country with the advanced stats, its not like I'm making this up.
This year. No one atgued against that.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:56 am to Rickdaddy4188
Right, didn't think you could.
Preach all you want about FACTS, but the FACT remains that neither of those two coaches held coordinator positions before they were hired as head coaches.
Go right ahead and change the rest of the criteria to fit whatever argument you feel like making (like you usually do) but please don't let that stand in the way of FACTS that you love to preach about.
Preach all you want about FACTS, but the FACT remains that neither of those two coaches held coordinator positions before they were hired as head coaches.
Go right ahead and change the rest of the criteria to fit whatever argument you feel like making (like you usually do) but please don't let that stand in the way of FACTS that you love to preach about.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 11:00 am to Rickdaddy4188
Is he calling plays?
Posted on 2/17/17 at 11:09 am to RATeamWannabe
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Preach all you want about FACTS, but the FACT remains that neither of those two coaches held coordinator positions before they were hired as head coaches.
One was head coach. I dont think you understand that Head coach is above coordinator.
Im sorry you had no clue about Jim Harbaugh.
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right ahead and change the rest of the criteria to fit whatever argument you feel like making (like you usually do) but please don't let that stand in the way of FACTS that you love to preach about.
Im not changing shite. Its like you dont understand football. You clearly dont understand that hiring an inexperienced coach is acceptable at some programs and at some its not. If lsu hadnt won a sec title in 2 decades and had zero top 20 finishes in the last decade, there wouldnt be much gripe about hirjng an inexperienced HC.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 11:13 am to Lsuchs
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he calling plays?
You said no one was beating down Ensminger's door to be a coordinator.
Who was beatng down ed Orgeron's door to even be a coordinator, let alone a head coach.
You used Ensminger's lack of oc offers to justify not wanting him as oc yet we hired a HC no one was trying to hire as head coach or a coordinator.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 11:18 am to Rickdaddy4188
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One was head coach. I dont think you understand that Head coach is above coordinator.
Im sorry you had no clue about Jim Harbaugh.
You didnt specify what program you were referring to, so yes, he was still never a coordinator before he was a head coach. Fact remains, HE WAS NEVER A COORDINATOR BEFORE HE WAS A HEAD COACH, ANYWHERE
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Its like you dont understand football.
How many years have you coached? Only people that have coached truly understand how little people understand football.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 11:25 am to RATeamWannabe
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You didnt specify what program you were referring to, so yes, he was still never a coordinator before he was a head coach. Fact remains, HE WAS NEVER A COORDINATOR BEFORE HE WAS A HEAD COACH, ANYWHERE
No shite. He had been a head coach. Which is above coordinator. Jist admit you thought Jim Harbaugh had been a position coach before getting the stanford job.
I guess you didn't read my initial post....
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using this logic where were all these programs beating down the door to make Coach O even a Defensive coordinator, let aloneHEAD COACH
Do you see those last 2 words in my post?
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How many years have you coached? Only people that have coached truly understand how little people understand football.
32 years. Coaching football ignorant people and posters like you daily.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 11:42 am to Rickdaddy4188
"Coordinators matter" then. I thought it pretty obvious I meant play callers.
I'll play your game though. Had we made an outside hire at HC like we did at OC do you think O gets a shot at a mid major or goes back to DL? I think he leaves. Ensminger was demoted back to TE coach.
I'll play your game though. Had we made an outside hire at HC like we did at OC do you think O gets a shot at a mid major or goes back to DL? I think he leaves. Ensminger was demoted back to TE coach.
This post was edited on 2/17/17 at 11:46 am
Posted on 2/17/17 at 11:45 am to Rickdaddy4188
I read your initial post, and my response is the same. You still ignore Dabo as also never being a coordinator, because you're wrong with the logic that there is some mandatory progression system.
I knew it. I never knew how little I or anyone else knew about football until I started coaching
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32 years. Coaching football ignorant people and posters like you daily.
I knew it. I never knew how little I or anyone else knew about football until I started coaching
Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:09 pm to mwade91383
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I'd like to see LF go to CAR
Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:32 pm to RATeamWannabe
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This post was edited on 2/17/17 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:36 pm to WilliamTaylor21
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Tre White, 12th overall to Browns
Much deserved... minus the Browns part. Don't be shocked if all 3 of those guys get a bump from the combine. I would put money on Adams, LF and White to have incredible measurables!
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