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Kicking Update
Posted on 4/2/17 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 4/2/17 at 9:29 pm
Been a while since I have reported anything. Although, not much to really report right now. I know most think that Culp is our next starting Kicker. That is primarily the product of where Culp was as a HS Senior compared to where Gonsoulin was as a HS senior combined with Culp being on scholarship.
However, since that time and as of today....I can tell you that Jack and Connor are really neck and neck. I predicted at the end of last year Jack would make a strong run at the starting job. At year end, Jack was hitting the best ball of any of the guys. Of course, all this can change in a heartbeat when they start charting the guys in the summer.....but it is and will likely continue to be one of the quiet battles for a starting position.
Gamble will retain KO duties, but I am making no prediction as to who wins out between Jack and Connor.
As a sidenote......saw Leonard and Lanard today. Leonard is looking good... just like a guy who is about to be a multi-millionaire in less than a month.
However, since that time and as of today....I can tell you that Jack and Connor are really neck and neck. I predicted at the end of last year Jack would make a strong run at the starting job. At year end, Jack was hitting the best ball of any of the guys. Of course, all this can change in a heartbeat when they start charting the guys in the summer.....but it is and will likely continue to be one of the quiet battles for a starting position.
Gamble will retain KO duties, but I am making no prediction as to who wins out between Jack and Connor.
As a sidenote......saw Leonard and Lanard today. Leonard is looking good... just like a guy who is about to be a multi-millionaire in less than a month.
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Posted on 4/2/17 at 11:00 pm to Barrister
Alright tRant, it's time to pick your side! Are you #teamconnor or #teamjack? Vote now!
Posted on 4/2/17 at 11:21 pm to Barrister
Good to know. It has been taken as matter-of-fact that Culp will win the job, because of outside evaluation as well as familiarity with his talent. Even Jimmy Deets proclaimed him as "the real deal".
To hear that Gonsoulin is pushing Culp for the position is obviously a good sign. As long as Gamble can produce a few touchbacks per game this season, we should be in good shape with the kicking situation.
To hear that Gonsoulin is pushing Culp for the position is obviously a good sign. As long as Gamble can produce a few touchbacks per game this season, we should be in good shape with the kicking situation.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 3:37 am to Barrister
I just want to know one thing. Will we kick the ball in the end zone this year during kickoffs?
Posted on 4/3/17 at 6:15 am to LC-LSU-FAN
Go Culp.
Gamble has to do better on KO's if he is actually going to still be doing that. I have little confidence in Gamble.
Gamble has to do better on KO's if he is actually going to still be doing that. I have little confidence in Gamble.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 7:15 am to Barrister
I don't care who it is...as long as they are good.
Are they good? Is it close because they are both great? Or both averaage?
Are they good? Is it close because they are both great? Or both averaage?
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:20 am to the LSUSaint
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Are they good? Is it close because they are both great? Or both averaage?
Both guys are high quality kickers. I do think Connor has greater potential than Jack, as his "A" ball is an explosion of altitude and velocity. Jack is no slouch and has the same 50+ range, but right now is a tad more accurate.
If KO were the tie-breaker the job goes to Connor, but neither Jack nor Connor can do what Cameron does..... namely throw up a ball with a 4+ sec hang time. Every year (and even in this thread) people bash Cameron and don't think he does a good job. Nothing is further from the truth. Cameron's hang time allows coverage downfield and forces the return team to advance the ball. Why give the opponent the ball at the 25 when you can have them start further back?
Posted on 4/3/17 at 12:33 pm to Barrister
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Why give the opponent the ball at the 25 when you can have them start further back?
Because we have seen a penchant for him to screw up and give the other team a start at the 35 (or is it 40) on multiple occasions.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 1:04 pm to Barrister
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Why give the opponent the ball at the 25 when you can have them sta
Show me those stats. 4 yds isn't a deal breaker for me......I'd rather have the scholarship and let on of those guys handle kickoffs.
Speaking of, I'd like to see a stat (if kept) of all kickoffs returned for TDs. How deep was the kick, and what was the hangtime?
I think we would be surprise knowing those #s
Posted on 4/3/17 at 1:13 pm to Barrister
I guess the admins don't like either kicker, this thread looks like it had been anchored... haha!
Posted on 4/3/17 at 3:44 pm to the LSUSaint
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Show me those stats
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I'd like to see a stat (if kept) of all kickoffs returned for TDs. How deep was the kick, and what was the hangtime?
I think we would be surprise knowing those #s
Funny you should ask...I cleaning off my desk and came across my stats sheets from last year. These are written long hand and sadly, I cannot read my own handwriting sometimes, but here are the stats from last year KO.
First, understand - - the coaching philosophy is to obtain a net gain in yardage by kicking a high ball that lands in an area which forces the return team to bring it out. This game plan resulted in 173 NET yards gained. This is calculated by comparing actual starting positions to an assumed 25 yard line starting position on touch backs.
The only team to have a positive +/- starting field position against us last year was Florida, who, on 3 KO was +/- 14 yards...the majority of which was a 42 yd return. The other 2 KO in that game were a TB (no +/- factor) and a return to the 22 ( a yardage gain of 3).
In over 60 Kick offs we only had 5 return men get past the 30 yard line all year.
How many went to the house? C'mon...take a guess.
Why? Because with an extended hang time, your special team can get down the field, they can adjust for the return team's attempt to set up lanes, etc, etc.
Look, I get it....I love watching kids explode the ball out of the back of the end-zone. As someone around this aspect of the game, I get my jollies off watching it. It is the "Big Wood" measuring contest of kickers. I guess, that is the one thing that kinda impressed me about CLM and BDP....is they had discipline to use Gamble's ability to hang the ball.
There is not necessarily a right or a wrong, just a different game plan. My only issue is people who do not understand the plan and who want to criticize a kid.
Yes, I will white knight for Gamble....but only because ...and listen when I say this....he has the strongest leg on the team. He can....AT WILL....put a ball into the back of the end-zone. I see him do it. He, like all these guys, works real hard...is a good kid....and simply follows the game-plan laid out by his coaches.
Off my soapbox.....sorry if I offended anyone with the minor rant. Not my intent.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 3:50 pm to alumni95
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I guess the admins don't like either kicker, this thread looks like it had been anchored... haha!
Actually, I laughed. Poor kickers....no respect
Posted on 4/3/17 at 5:34 pm to Barrister
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The only team to have a positive +/- starting field position against us last year was Florida, who, on 3 KO was +/- 14 yards...the majority of which was a 42 yd return. The other 2 KO in that game were a TB (no +/- factor) and a return to the 22 ( a yardage gain of 3).
In over 60 Kick offs we only had 5 return men get past the 30 yard line all year.
How many went to the house? C'mon...take a guess.
And how does this compares to teams in our conference? Meaning, if it weren't gamble kicking, would we have been as effective with a guy who kicks one yd shallower.
Nothing against Gamble, justvdint think a team with our coverage guys would give up td's
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