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Just got the courage to rewatch the first half...

Posted on 1/13/12 at 11:24 am
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 11:24 am
Jefferson was not as bad as you may think. As expected, it was the play calling that stunk. The false starts and the missed plays on 3rd down were killer. Regardless, those 3rd down plays were probably not going to go for much. Bama was begging us to pass deep on them and we didn't. Not a single pass was thrown beyond 10 yards. Repeat...not a single pass was thrown beyond 10 yards.

Maze's big punt return hurt and was unexpected and set up their first field goal. If he doesn't mess up his hamstring on that run, I wonder if he takes it to the house.

Defense played well until the last two drives of the half. I think that is when the back was broken. Alabama was able to twice drive all the way down the field to get the FG.

Think about...we had one first down in the first half and Bama's offense was able to drive down the field twice in a row and get FG's to end the half.

Each of those two drives started on Bama's 25 and 24, respectively.

Going up 9-0 was a huge momentum boost and no doubt deflated our guys.

McCarron played nearly flawless. He was able to escape pressure and make plays. He was perfect on those out-routes to the TE, and made some huge completions throughout the half, especially on that last drive of the 2nd qtr. He was the difference in the game.

So, the players are in the locker room at half time...the score is 9-0...the defense has just given up two long drives for scores and the offense has one first down and hasn't crossed the 50. Deflating.

Maybe I will watch the 2nd half later...the fact that I am able to watch it again means that I am pretty much past this game.

Posted by DEG
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 11:27 am to
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the fact that I am able to watch it again means that I am pretty much past this game.


I'm jealous.

Our offense relied on momentum. We didn't get it until the second half against UGA and never found it against Bama. Run game created momentum for us, and Les knew that. I felt like if we could have busted a 12-15 yard run early, it would have changed our approach and Bama's approach. Never happened.
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 11:28 am to
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Just got the courage to rewatch the first half...


You are a braver man than I
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 11:29 am to
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I felt like if we could have busted a 12-15 yard run early, it would have changed our approach and Bama's approach. Never happened.


Bama wasn't going to let LSU run in that game. They were going to force LSU to throw down field and it didn't happen.
Posted by fjohns1
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 11:30 am to
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Just got the courage to rewatch the first half...


u lucky u didn't committ suicide
Posted by TigerNlc
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 11:30 am to
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Not a single pass was thrown beyond 10 yards. Repeat...not a single pass was thrown beyond 10 yards.

Well that's part of JJ's problem there.
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 11:30 am to
I rewatched it Wednesday and I agree. What killed us was the two fumbled snaps and the two false starts. Say what you want, but 1st and 15 is VERY hard against Alabama's D.

I felt the first fumbled snap in the first drive hurt really bad. It looked like Ford would have gotten the first, which would have helped to start out with a first down.

Posted by Vol Fan in the Bayou
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 11:30 am to
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Jefferson was not as bad as you may think.


This is going to be a very unpopular opinion. But you are right.

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it was the play calling that stunk


Without a doubt. Just horrible. What I wonder though how many of those plays were called at the line rather than from the sideline?

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Bama was begging us to pass deep on them and we didn't.


No kidding. You have make the defense respect this to loosen up the corners. Otherwise, the CB's are going to sit there in their tight zone and stare into the backfield.
Posted by MasonTiger
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 11:30 am to
Yep, with the way LSU's offense and Bama's special teams were playing, going up 9-0 pretty much let the air out of the bag for everyone who was an LSU fan. It did for me. You could see it wasn't going to be our night.

Posted by just me
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 11:31 am to
That's a good assessment of the first half.
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 11:31 am to
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Jefferson was not as bad as you may think. As expected, it was the play calling that stunk.


I tend to agree with this. After re-watching the game myself earlier in the week I thought the same. A few "near misses," penalties, and poor playcalling made it look worse than it was. However, you might also say that it could have been much worse (i.e. ODB doesn't have a 50" vertical and JJ's pass travels into the stands / Hightower cashes in on the pick 6 opportunity / Jefferson loses his fumbled snap).

Overall, when I left the game, I might have rated JJ a 1 out of 10. After re-watching it, I'll give him a 3 out of 10. Still shitty, but not as shitty as I thought at first glance.

The utter lack of any meaningful in game coaching decision is what pisses me off about this more than anything else.

Posted by timlan2057
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 11:32 am to
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Just got the courage to rewatch the first half...


You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din.

I feel toward that game like Richard Nixon's biographers related about how he felt about that first debate with John F. Kennedy in 1960 when Nixon looked wan and sick under the TV lights and came off so badly: for the rest of his life, Nixon refused to even look at the tapes.

That's me as far as that game Monday night.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 11:32 am to
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This is going to be a very unpopular opinion. But you are right.


He wasn't bad in the first half. The play selection was awful. He was very bad in the second half.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 11:33 am to
Looking back on the first game, I think the players knew they were lucky to win. LSU's two biggest plays in that game (Jefferson's 18 yard run and his long pass to Shepard) were busted plays. I would guess that the memory of the first game, coupled with the dismal performance by the offense in the first half of the title game deflated the team.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 11:33 am to
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Jefferson was not as bad as you may think.
duck
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 11:34 am to
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Well that's part of JJ's problem there.
no...the play calls were not to throw it deep...it was to throw quick passes...
Posted by MasonTiger
Mason, Ohio
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 11:34 am to
Even though you could see the writing on the wall when Bama went up 9-0, LSU still had a glimmer of hope before JJ's colossal mistake the second half. It was then that I considered actually turning the game off, which I never do...and never will.
Posted by fastedLSU
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 11:34 am to
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Jefferson was not as bad as you may think. As expected, it was the play calling that stunk.


While the play calling was obviously bad, JJ was changing the plays at the line of scrimmage. No? If the first option was covered he tucked and ran.
This post was edited on 1/13/12 at 11:35 am
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 11:35 am to
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I felt the first fumbled snap in the first drive hurt really bad. It looked like Ford would have gotten the first, which would have helped to start out with a first down
yeah, that one was on Jefferson. The second drop in shotgun was low, but the play had no chance. Bama's defense was going to smother that play regardless.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 11:35 am to
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Looking back on the first game, I think the players knew they were lucky to win. LSU's two biggest plays in that game (Jefferson's 18 yard run and his long pass to Shepard) were busted plays. I would guess that the memory of the first game, coupled with the dismal performance by the offense in the first half of the title game deflated the team.


It was a totally different team than I had seen from LSU this year. I think we all know from their demeanor that they were not giving themselves much of a chance.
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