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re: JJ was outcoached

Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:06 am to
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
7647 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:06 am to
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I'm not happy we "almost won", I'm just not an emotional bitch blubbering wildly about narrowly losing a series to a very good team. It's a long season and we don't suck nearly as much as people here want to think.

Fair. I did take you somewhat out of context in regards to the OP, who I don’t agree with. I just don’t like when people try to spin a negative into a positive, I which I understand you weren’t trying to do.
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ETA: I will spell out my point here very clearly for you: Most of our fans suck and are genuinely stupid people.

We’re on the same page
Posted by Maverick14
Sulphur, La
Member since Aug 2014
2329 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:08 am to
This is a young team and a team that lost a lot of leadership and also a team that is searching for an identity! I don’t think he was out coached !
Posted by CRW
Destrahan
Member since Aug 2016
1080 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:18 am to
FIRE JJ,NOTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!
Posted by FredbullTN
Brentwood, TN
Member since Sep 2023
626 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:23 am to
He didn’t get out coached. It appears that he got caught with an offense that just isn’t good. The offenses this year around the league seem to be out of this world. How many double digit home run guys did Florida have and how many of their starters were hitting over .300? That’s all over the league.

It appears Jay thought he was going to have elite pitching that could get him through until the offense got going. The problem is our pitching has been really good at times, but elite is another level and we aren’t there. And unfortunately the pitching hasn’t been better than the hitting we have faced in the SEC. It’s good enough to keep us in games and then the damn breaks.

Any real fan knows we just need to get hot at the right time and talent wise on paper this team can compete with anybody. We just need to focus on growing as a team and getting in the dance and see how things shake out.

With all that said, I don’t think Jay is going to get caught again and will go scorched earth in the transfer portal looking for guys that can hit .350 with 15+ HRs.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
8993 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:38 am to
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why do people keep acting like we weren't one frick up by our catcher from taking 2/3?


Because that doesn't fit their narrative that Jay is a bad coach. It is beyond maddening how some of our fans just go this route of shitting on our coach at any chance they get.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47361 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:52 am to
quote:

JJ was outcoached


The players were outplayed.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57618 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:56 am to
Not sure why you have so many downvotes, I think most would agree he was out coached.
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4333 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 11:01 am to
Left ackenhousen in too long.

Other than that JJ cannot hit the ball for the players.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11731 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 11:10 am to
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why do people keep acting like we weren't one frick up by our catcher from taking 2/3?

This is the definition of “what if” lol
Posted by Mats86
Member since Mar 2021
3577 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 11:15 am to
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Like it or not he was.

That seems fair in this last series. This happens to the best coaches from time to time. It’s not a trend.

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He continues to make errors in pitching.

That is odd wording, but I know what you mean. This one is a bit hard to really argue because it’s really a what if. Ack seemed to be stretched a bit too long, but you don’t really know that whoever comes in shuts them down.

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Dugout is like a funeral home. Where's the energy?

People look too much into this. Teams are usually celebrating poor performance.

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2 weeks in a row is beginning to show itself

No clue what this means.



This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 11:20 am
Posted by zeebo
Hammond
Member since Jan 2008
5193 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 11:19 am to
He knows what he is doing
Posted by Mats86
Member since Mar 2021
3577 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 11:21 am to
Nobody can argue he doesn’t. Sometimes the gut is wrong.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57618 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 11:24 am to
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He knows what he is doing


Who has said that he's a bad coach this season? He was out coached this weekend. Its possible he could out coach DVH this weekend. Its the nature of the game of baseball.
This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 11:24 am
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3315 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 11:27 am to
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Ack seemed to be stretched a bit too long, but you don’t really know that whoever comes in shuts them down


Yeah, if one of your better pitchers is left in and works through tough innings then the coach was smart. If they don’t work through it then the coach left them in too long. Hindsight is wonderful.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70097 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 11:34 am to
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Yeah, if one of your better pitchers is left in and works through tough innings then the coach was smart. If they don’t work through it then the coach left them in too long. Hindsight is wonderful.


Well, there is a ton of research on this specific topic and the line demarcation is hitters seeing a pitcher the third time.

The specific factors going into it (fatigue, familiarity) may be weighted differently, but the effect is undeniable. It can be lessened with each specific pitch thrown more than 10% of the time, so starters with a bigger arsenal are less susceptible (but not immune).

A reliever that mostly relies on two pitches that was getting to the end of his pitch count and inning max probably shouldn't face a potential 1/1 draft pick a third time. And this is something that can be pointed out in real time. No hindsight needed.
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
7867 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:57 pm to
Sounds like LSU just needs better hitters/players
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35911 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:59 pm to
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Who has said that he's a bad coach this season? He was out coached this weekend. Its possible he could out coach DVH this weekend. Its the nature of the game of baseball.


What did the opposing coach do to out coach Johnson?
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
3864 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:22 pm to
It seems like only a year ago we saw threads like this every time we lost a game.

If only I could remember how last year ended
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36781 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:34 pm to
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If we would have won in extra innings on saturday you wouldnt mention this at all.

That's mighty big IF, little darlin'
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Now its time to grow up and realize it doesnt mean anything yet

MIGHT be valid after losing to Stony Brook and Xavier but not dropping your first 2 SEC series. This ain't Little League.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36781 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:36 pm to
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I'm not saying I agree with the OP. But I'm not going to be happy that we almost won the series. Whenever something like that happens in our favor you probably don't come here and say "why are people acting like we weren't one frick up away from losing the series"

But you ARE agreeing with OP
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