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JJ has now started more games than MF.

Posted on 11/30/09 at 11:50 am
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 11:50 am
If i'm not mistaken, JJ has started 13 games.

Prior to the NC game, MF started 12.(peach bowl+11 07' games).

the JJ lacks experience excuse needs to end. There are plenty of sophomore QB's that can lit it up. I have yet to even see JJ throw well for an entire game.
Usually his TD drives are benefited by huge runs, penalties, or big after catch moves by our WR's.

I'm ready to see a complete game by JJ.
This post was edited on 11/30/09 at 11:51 am
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 11:51 am to
Flynn's team was much more complete FWIW.

and I dont think he's much worse than Flynn
This post was edited on 11/30/09 at 11:52 am
Posted by King Mello
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
475 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 11:56 am to
how about Flynn was a senior with 3 years of experience under his belt making those 12 starts while JJ is still just a 19 yr old sophmore.. there is no comparison between the 2 at this point
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 11:58 am to
I'm def a JJ fan, but to play devil's advocate, Flynn was in his 1st year in Crowton's system and JJ in his second. But Flynn's previous experience def helped. JJ is going to be excellent next year. If the o-line improves, I wouldn't be amazed if he threw for 25-28 TDs
Posted by GhostofJackson
Speedy Teflon Wizard
Member since Nov 2009
6604 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

lsu xman


So I guess the fact that JJ is a true soph and MF was a 5th year senior has nothing to do with it. Jesus you are a retard.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
15572 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 12:04 pm to
my contention is that there are plenty of soph QB's that can light it up at least a game here and there. JJ isnt one of them. JJ might have a couple of good drives a game and never plays well for the entire game.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 12:12 pm to
Flynn never lit anyone up. He made the plays asked of him and didn't frick up too much.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

So I guess the fact that JJ is a true soph and MF was a 5th year senior has nothing to do with it. Jesus you are a retard.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101578 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

my contention is that there are plenty of soph QB's that can light it up at least a game here and there. JJ isnt one of them. JJ might have a couple of good drives a game and never plays well for the entire game.


Peach Bowl?
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 12:23 pm to
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and I dont think he's much worse than Flynn


The Matt Flynn who is hanging around the NFL right now?

JJ is a better athlete but I don't think he will ever be the QB that Flynn was or was capable of being while at LSU.
Posted by TigerWilson88
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2008
1948 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

quote:


my contention is that there are plenty of soph QB's that can light it up at least a game here and there. JJ isnt one of them. JJ might have a couple of good drives a game and never plays well for the entire game.




Peach Bowl?

Wasn't he a soph same as JJ then?
Posted by pmoney1245
Member since Nov 2009
217 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 12:26 pm to
Matt Flynn is light years ahead of JJ.

Watch Jordan in 5 wide sets if you think differently.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

The Matt Flynn who is hanging around the NFL right now?




Posted by PRIDGENTIGER
TN
Member since Jan 2006
828 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 12:29 pm to
and how many of those soph have no running game, no pass protection ,and an idiot calling the plays. Also jj has a higher compl. percentage, higher yards per attempt and a higher qb rating than flynn. I don't know how many times im gonna have to say this on this site but here it goes again. If you cant see that jj has improved throughout the season then you just dont wanna see it.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 12:31 pm to
:kige:
Posted by PRIDGENTIGER
TN
Member since Jan 2006
828 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 12:34 pm to
hey jonny u. Do you just pst shite that comes into ur head or do you really believe it. JJ has numbers very similar to flynn and he has 2 more yrs. I dont know where you people get that flyn was this great qb. He was average to slightly above average against kentucky he was less than 50% compl and 135 yrds. Yeah that is worse than jj. Stop thinking flynn was this wonderful qb because he wasnt
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

If you cant see that jj has improved throughout the season then you just dont wanna see it.


So.....
He reads the field better than before, including check downs?

He makes quicker decisions on the option or when to tuck it and run?

He hits his deep receivers (wide open "alone in the moonlight" as Ferguson used to say) better?

He has a better sense of the play clock?

Hmmmm, don't see it.
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

the JJ lacks experience excuse needs to end.

I agree. I like the way he's progressed this year, and honestly, he's played better than I expected (I figured he'd have one or two frick up games where Lee had to come in, but this never happened). Now that he's got a year of experience under his belt, we can see what we've got over the next two seasons. I doubt he'll ever be a Heisman candidate, but I think he's plenty good enough to help us get to Atlanta next December. I'm fairly optimistic about 2010, 10-2 is doable, even with our beefy schedule.
Posted by TigerBait45
Moreauville, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
1725 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 12:38 pm to
If Jefferson had a competent QB coach i'd agree that the experience excuse is a cop out.

but he's basically learning on his own out there. Crowton cannot develop a QB. He is incapable of it.
Posted by GT
BR
Member since Dec 2003
917 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 12:54 pm to
I doubt that JJ will be much better than he is now. He doesn't consistently play smart. An example: toward the end of the first half on 3rd and 10 he runs out of bounds. Because of that ARK was able to score before the end of the half. If he had not gone out of bounds we could have taken about a minute off the clock with the time it would have taken for him to get up and the time for the officials to blow the ball ready for play. this may have left Ark without enough time to score (FG).
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