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re: Jeff Grimes is a BIG Problem

Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:46 am to
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:46 am to
Honestly I was 100% on board with rowing the boat but for whatever reason Fleck was never even considered.
Posted by litenin
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:23 pm to
Haven't read through all of the pages but has anyone mentioned that we've had a few running plays recently where the OG is pulling and the play gets blown up before it has a chance to be executed?

Are we pulling an OG more frequently than we did in the past under Miles/Cameron?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

Honestly I was 100% on board with rowing the boat but for whatever reason Fleck was never even considered.



yea, pretty odd. Somehow he landed at Minnesota. I thought he'd wait on a better gig.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31895 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:29 pm to
frick yes he's a big problem.....dude goes 6'7"!
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31895 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:31 pm to
I've seen a pulling strong side guard that's covered by a DT and the center attempting a reach block. That is doomed to failure. When I've seen this happen, the DT blows the play to pieces.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:59 pm to
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To me the transfers and Suspension are an indicator of one main thing: Miles did not hold players accountable.

To me this shows that Orgeron is trying to change the culture of the locker room. He's saying that there is a new sheriff in town and the BS that you got away with under Miles won't cut it anymore.
Maybe. I wish we knew frankly... but we don't. I'm assuming it's a combination- separating some wheat from chaff (quality), some of what you said, some just don't like the new coaches, and some are just your normal run of the mill attrition from home sickness or whatever.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

Haven't read through all of the pages but has anyone mentioned that we've had a few running plays recently where the OG is pulling and the play gets blown up before it has a chance to be executed?

Are we pulling an OG more frequently than we did in the past under Miles/Cameron?
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I've seen a pulling strong side guard that's covered by a DT and the center attempting a reach block. That is doomed to failure. When I've seen this happen, the DT blows the play to pieces.
We've seen this happen more and more over the last couple years. Sometimes it's the LB crashing.

Of course Bama is the best example... how many times did we see Fournette get slowed down at point-of-attack with pulling lineman not getting away from LoS and a LB come from the side or behind.

Many teams do such to us now. If you see a OL pull, just follow him and rely on the other side to cause a delay. Sometimes they're quick enough to blow it up without that delay.

RPO, designed cut backs, screens, throw backs- we don't run 'em so the risk of just following the OL on a pull is minimal. Additionally, if it's the LB doing the disrupting the play, what's your concern about a TE slipping behind you in the middle? very little. Even more additionally, at least before Canada, the FB always went to point-of-attack and rarely sealed that backside. So it was an easy key to read for the LBs and DL alike.

Canada can, and does sometimes, use the F-back to either seal that backside or at least make the keys harder to read. It has helped with the off-tackle running where we're pulling OL.
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