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re: Jarvis 28 1/2 vertical

Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:07 am to
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:07 am to
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i presume you shite on posts celebrating when LSU players test well, too

why would that be necessary.

Posted by headboard banger
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:10 am to
Ran 4.65 40
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:11 am to
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not that it doesn't matter at all, but the balls that Jarvis is going to be expected to handle in the league will not be jump balls.

the vertical is more about explosiveness than actual jumping. same with the broad. he did terrible in both

lack of explosiveness is a major concern when going from college to the NFL
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:11 am to
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why would that be necessary.

either the tests matter, or they don't
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:13 am to
Damn, that's not good news. 4.65 forty. I was hoping for at least a4.50
Posted by Hulkklogan
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:13 am to
I agree the tests matter. We're going to see him fall quite a bit if his combine continues to suck. He can catch anything that comes his way, sure, but if he's can't get open, what good is that?
Posted by ThaGenius
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:16 am to
Yes it is a big concern for the players whose game is predicated on Explosiveness!! Do you not understand that his game is not based on his athleticism and explosiveness?

ETA: ODB's game is based on speed, so he had to test well! I love the comparison they used for Juice in Hines Ward. Hines ran a 4.55/ 30 inch vert, and 9' broad!
This post was edited on 2/23/14 at 11:19 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:16 am to
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Yes it is a big concern for the players whose game is predicated on Explosiveness!!

aka, wide receivers

quote:

Do you not understand that his game is not based on his athleticism and explosiveness?

did he move to QB?
Posted by ThaGenius
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:19 am to
ODB's game is based on speed, so he had to test well! I love the comparison they used for Juice in Hines Ward. Hines ran a 4.55/ 30 inch vert, and 9' broad!


ETA: you clearly do not understand football! Please continue to read you BR app!
This post was edited on 2/23/14 at 11:21 am
Posted by BayouBandit24
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:21 am to
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Doesn't matter. Still will a late first, early second round pick


No he won't.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:22 am to
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ETA: you clearly do not understand football!


Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:23 am to
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either the tests matter, or they don't

Ok then. I guess they don't.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:23 am to
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either the tests matter, or they don't


either the functionality matter or it doesn't.

I am much more concerned with the 4.65 than the vertical. Safeties will just eat him alive if he has no threat to go vertical, and some of the faster LBs can cover him depending on pass rush schemes.

Vertical wasn't and isn't a big factor. No more than it is for Welker, and I cant imagine he jumped much over 30.
Posted by ThaGenius
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:23 am to
Then please tell me how Anquan Boldin and Hines Ward survived in the league, don't worry I'll wait!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:29 am to
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I am much more concerned with the 4.65 than the vertical.



that makes no sense

Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:30 am to
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Hopefully he falls to the Saints


It's clear that to get to the Super Bowl now, the Saints are going to have to step up the physical play to get through Seattle or San Fran. I would love if he went to the Saints. He's one of the most physical WRs I've ever seen at LSU and is a phenomenal receiver. We need more physical receivers against tough defenses.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:31 am to
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Then please tell me how Anquan Boldin and Hines Ward survived in the league,

2 guys out of thousands who failed due to physical ability. great point.

and boldin was a lot bigger and tested more explosive than landry has tested
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:33 am to
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Anquan Boldin and Hines Ward survived in the league
2nd and third round picks. And both had measurables a little better all around than Landry.

Landry needed to test better to see the first or early second.

I still don't know why one would bash the good performances.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:34 am to
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that makes no sense


what makes no sense? You don't think he would pose more matchup problems at 4.45 than 4.65?
This post was edited on 2/23/14 at 11:36 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:36 am to
the vertical is an overall measure of explosiveness (broad, too). that matters a lot more, especially for a guy who isn't a burner. that's how slot WRs (like what landry will be) get open
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