re: Jarrett Lee

There's no difference b/w the two fictitious stat lines you give.

First off, you're not likely to get 20 yards per reception in the first stat line, and if half your INT's are returned for TD's, you break even. But, there's still another turnover to be accounted for and the possible resulting points.

The second stat line is still at a positive production with 1 TD. I get what you're saying as far as having someone who can throw downfield, but the turnovers, and the fact that you will most likely not get that kind of yardage or points from 14 completions sort of negates the argument.

I think 19 of 31 for 190 with 2 TD's and an INT would be suitable for victory in most games we play against our better competition.

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A Jefferson Completion of 25 yards or more....

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You're the one that was talking about deep balls and then posted a sarcastic clip of Jefferson throwing for an eventual gain of 25 or more.

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Wow just wow. You post two youtube vids of Jefferson throwing it down field. The first one is about a 25 yards pass to Tolliver. Nowhere close to deep ball. The second one shows JJ just throwing the ball up and Tolliver makes a great catch. Like I've said before I think JJ should be the starter and I've asked time and time again for someone to show me a Jefferson deep ball and every single person has come up waaaay short.

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I don't even think your "wow just wow" stuff is convincing to yourself. That play against Penn St. was spotted at the 40 and Toliver caught it right about the 10. So he threw on the run with heavy pressure in the worst conditions and gained 30 just through the air. Toliver then took it another nine yards to the one.

You can say what you want about the Ole Miss bomb. But it was a completed bomb and it was very nicely thrown while he was getting clobbered. Toliver did make a great catch. But it wasn't a one-handed catch or a tipped ball. He just caught it in really tight coverage and got hit too. You can't ask for more from your QB when throwing that pass. Toliver basically caught it in stride.

Since you're pressing the issue

It's a somewhat crappy video, but you get the picture. It was a bomb that went for a TD and was easy to catch. There you go. It's 15 yards longer than Lee has ever gotten with a true bomb.
He had a 66-yarder against UGA, but that was a screen pass to KW. His next longest was 43 yards.

I didn't say JJ was great at long balls and he did struggle at the beginning of last season with hitting them. But he got better with them as the season went on. He's had some nice connections on longer passes, but still needs to work on it. And Lee does too. That's the point. Lee is not superior to JJ with long passes.

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Oddly enough though, LSU lost both games where JJ went over 200 recently. Then again, he hit over 200 against Auburn, Georgia and State and we won

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JL put 270 on miss state, won sec fresh of week and we got a W at home
close to 300 on uga in a L at home
almost 200 vs usc on road in a w.
almost 200 in 2 qrtrs vs Au in comeback W.

take away couple bad throws vs uga and this is his best performances as a tiger.