re: I've seen other coaches break down plays

As sad as it is to say....many of my Tennessee fans, said they had to quit showing up to the games,
to get FULMER and DOOLEY fired. What I hate is that Georgia will be in contention for someone good that we may have had a shot. I knew Jimbo wouldn't leave a $5M job in an easy conferece and come to SEC West. Why would we not have a few guys already gauging their interest in a position with LSU as HC. This was handled very badly, so much in fact that Les won. Now will he use this to get a contract and extension? Again what most don't see LES is still taking care of himself. I would be happy to leave a job and take $15 M (security for life) but that is just me. We pay coaches to fail at their job. We were justified in firing him, but failed in the process we used as the whole country watched a debacle unfold. And, sympathy went to Les. Again I don't hate LES I just love LSU more and our program.

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It was a nice sething and most people were chanting for les to be nice and send him out with respect.

When we got back to the hotel and watched the announcement, we were all shocked as hell and disappointed

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HAPPY PRANKSGIVING ! It's a new Holiday on the Saturday after Thanksgiving. It's called Pranks-giving, and traditionally celebrants will troll, and otherwise play silly but clever pranks on one another.

Coach Miles, you GOT us on Pranksgiving! We owe you one!

Happy Pranksgiving, everybody.

Because the only two options are sloppy wins over lousy teams or entertaining losses.

That was actually a cool video. He certainly has passion and enjoys coaching. He looks at ease on the field, like a real person rather than the caricature he is in front of the camera.

I just wish his offenses wouldn't suck so hard.

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Man I hope you're right because even the wins are becoming increasingly painful to watch. It's like we win off of pure luck and better athletes. Come time for the heavyweight matches we look like a circus show .

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111 wins of pure luck. Most be excruciating for you.

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He went on to play at Michigan where Bo put that traffic jam style of offense into actual human practice.

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. I've been wondering about a good name to call it, and that fits his style perfectly.

Traffic Jam Offense

His offensive philosophy is defense and special teams

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and at the very least have some sort of specialty

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Being a former offensive lineman, one might think that specialty would be offensive line, but I would say that OL, TE, and QB have been the worst positions for development with Miles. And when people talk about talent being the main reason for LSU Victories, the developmental issues at these positions are major factors.

There have been 41 LSU players recruited/signed by Miles that have been NFL Draft Picks.

2 Offensive Linemen - Joe Barksdale (3rd Round), Trai Turner (3rd Round).

0 Tight Ends.

1 Quarterback - Zach Mettenberger (6th Round).


Now, La'el Collins definitely would have been drafted (most likely 1st Round) if not for the murder investigation. But La'el was a stud before he even played a down for LSU. Plus, I think he should have been gotten more playing time his freshman year. Anyway, the point is that I don't think Miles deserves credit for developing La'el Collins.

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explaining some of the plays on offense!

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I don't know of a video of Miles doing that.

Here is one you might like, though - Baylor Film Room: Philip Montgomery Breaks Down TCU Win.

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Plenty of ridiculous quotes and talking in riddles, plenty of let er rip, having a want to do this and that, coming in 2nd speeches

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List of LSU Tigers players in the NFL Draft

41 total players recruited/signed by Miles. By position:

QB - 1
RB - 6
WR - 7
TE - 0
OL - 2

DL - 11
LB - 5
DB - 9


Of course, this is not an exact measure of development for many different reasons, but for a program like LSU, this breakdown is an indicator that offensive linemen are not being developed well. You don't need to look at these numbers to know that. If you've watched the OL over the years, you've seen it.

LSU has had some really good TEs with Miles, but I don't think they've developed/improved a lot, and I think some of that can be attributed to lack of involvement (e.g., DeSean Smith). Some guys haven't developed well physically (also applies to OL). I think Nic Jacobs and Dillon Gordon have been the best blocking TEs, and both of those guys had great raw power from the start of their careers. I don't think they developed a lot, and they definitely weren't given the opportunity to develop as complete TEs.


Also, no fullbacks that were signed by Miles have been drafted. There aren't a lot of fullbacks drafted in general. In the last five years, 18 fullbacks have been drafted.

Number of Drafted Fullbacks

2015 - 4

2014 - 3

2013 - 3

2012 - 3

2011 - 5

Jacob Hester and Quinn Johnson were drafted, but they were both recruited/signed by Saban. However, from a head coach standpoint, I do think Miles deserves a lot/most of the credit for their development. (I'm not saying Miles deserves most of the credit for their development. I'm saying when attributing credit to a head coach, I think Miles deserves more credit than Saban in the development of these two.)

Overall, I think fullback development has been better than OL and TE development. There have also been some good fullbacks who had potential, but didn't finish their careers for different reasons (e.g., Melvin Jones, Thomas Parsons, Dominique Allen).