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re: Is the QB position back open?

Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:36 pm to
Posted by msbargas
Ponte vedra beach FL
Member since Sep 2009
727 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:36 pm to
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Etling isn't much better than Harris if at all


Why does it have to be only about them. How about giving McMillan and Scott a chance?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96133 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:38 pm to
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We have evidence this year. Etling came in and looked like he had a clue, which Harris has not shown in 3 seasons.
Just to show how stupid that fricking statement is

Danny Etlings three games:



Harris 3 seasons worth of games





There is 9 games better than anything Etling ever did, 4 on par with Etling, and 3 worse
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96133 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:40 pm to
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them in position to score, and if you would like a basis of comparison, see the last offensive play for LSU vs Wisconsin. Is that not what we are discussing?

He led them down in position to score, and then rushed the shite out of a snap causing a penalty, and missed a wide open Dupre for a td


Harris led them into scoring position, and then made a terrible play for an int
Posted by prepsportsallday
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2013
3514 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:42 pm to
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He led them down the field to put them in position to score, and if you would like a basis of comparison, see the last offensive play for LSU vs Wisconsin. Is that not what we are discussing?


is that the same drive as the overturned int?
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4542 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:42 pm to
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Or just dropping the football on 2nd and 2 on the opponent's 32?


One turnover ended a drive early in the 4th qtr which resulted in no points being scored (AUB 3 and out).

The other turnover resulted in a game ending play when he should have ran it or thrown it away.

I've seen Danny make more QB decisions that put the team in better situations than he has bad ones. I can not say the same for BH. I'll take it a step further...Danny Boy has made better QB decisions in the past 11 qtrs than BH has made in 22 games. Truth.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262129 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:43 pm to
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Etlings pick in Jville stte and the near pick on the post last week is no different. WR didnt have a chance at the ball on the near pick in auburn game. The mishandled fumble, and his part in clock managment, puts them on equal ground as far as im concerned.



Anyone who can't see that Harris just doesn't "get it" is impossible to discuss the subject. He doesn't have the awareness or knowledge to make his skills serviceable. If Etling can't do it, we need to look deeper on the depth chart.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85329 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:44 pm to
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There is 9 games better than anything Etling ever did, 4 on par with Etling, and 3 worse


But he just looks bad.

I do get it though. People don't want to go back to Harris so they're giving Etling the benefit of the doubt. He also legitimately does look better in the pocket and he has a knack for making a shifty play if it breaks down.

Unfortunately all that moxie and pocket presence isn't exactly producing numbers that are anything better than Harris so far.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96133 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:44 pm to
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I do get it though. People don't want to go back to Harris so they're giving Etling the benefit of the doubt. He also legitimately does look better in the pocket and he has a knack for making a shifty play if it breaks down.

Unfortunately all that moxie and pocket presence isn't exactly producing numbers that are anything better than Harris so far.
Agree completely
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20042 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:45 pm to
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questioning peoples intelligence is not wise. youre asking us to ignore a lot


I'm not questioning anyone's intelligence. That last throw that Harris made was about as bad a play as you can make. We needed a FG.

Your other criticisms are not fair. Snapping the ball before receivers were set? For one, He is the QB, not the center. Second, we were trying to score the game winning TD, which we ultimately didn't because time ran out before the ball was snapped.


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262129 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:46 pm to
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Unfortunately all that moxie and pocket presence isn't exactly producing numbers that are anything better than Harris so far.



Which one would you want leading a pivotal drive? I can say unequivicolly Etling.
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4542 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:47 pm to
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snaps ball before his wrs were set in final seconds


There was one second left. Get over it. THose fools should have been set.

Keep riding that tip. BH looks good right where he stands. At least he was more involved in the game this week.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96133 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:48 pm to
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Which one would you want leading a pivotal drive? I can say unequivicolly Etling.

I am unequivocally taking the defense to win out
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85329 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:53 pm to
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Anyone who can't see that Harris just doesn't "get it" is impossible to discuss the subject. He doesn't have the awareness or knowledge to make his skills serviceable. If Etling can't do it, we need to look deeper on the depth chart.


Roger, whether Haris or Etling "get it" or not is irrelevant. The point is that the actual play on the field hasn't changed much.

That being said, if the line continues to struggle, Etling has been a pleasant surprise moving the ball with his feet, so he needs to continue to start. Harris's unwillingness to run is perplexing.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20042 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:54 pm to
Dude you are simply a fool for posting those stats over and over.

They do not matter. Neither QB Has shown too much so we need to go with the guy that can actually make a play and function the offense. That guy is Etling.

If he can't get it done, whatever, show him the bench, but those stats aren't telling me anything my eyes can't see.

It is absolutely crazy to me that some of the people that wanted Miles gone are the same ones that want him to repeat his own mistakes.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85329 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:55 pm to
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There was one second left. Get over it. THose fools should have been set.


He's talking about the previous play. If they have a runoff, which they should have because the WR never got set in the guest place, the game would have ended there. The QB has to make sure they're set.
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4542 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:56 pm to
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honestly havent seen bh operate the same offense. would like to see him run some of the stuff that de has been running. in any event, de nutted up late in a critical game. if im interim, give both a shot.



If he can't run it in practice then he can't run it in the game. The offense is only has good as the one running it. DE looks completely different under center than DH and gives us a better shot to win.

You give them both a shot in practice. The one who has the best week gets the 1st team snaps.

Your boy had his shot and couldn't produce. If DE starts to suck it up then, you give BH another shot.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96133 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:57 pm to
Was Saturday not suckage?
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4542 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:01 pm to
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The QB has to make sure they're set.


You can't blame the QB for the WRs not being on the right side of the formation or if they can't hustle to the line.

The last two plays of the game the WRs were not set. He was one of the only ones that knew that they had to go fast.

Dupre was on the wrong side of the formation and had to switch sides. Lack of preparation does not conclude it's Etling's fault.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:02 pm to
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Your boy had his shot and couldn't produce



This. That chapter is closed. Etling is the QB. Slack somehow it doesn't surprise me that you are picking the wrong side again. I'm trying but you are making it most difficult.
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4542 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:02 pm to
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Was Saturday not suckage?


Absolutely. It reminded me of the Wisconsin game. And the Alabama game last year....and the Arkansas game last year....oh, and the Ole Miss game last year.
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