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re: Is Jeff Grimes the new Lou Tepper?
Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:11 pm to headboard banger
Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:11 pm to headboard banger
No.
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:39 pm to TNTigerman
quote:Simple insight- Zone is blocking an area, if your area is clean (stunt, slant), slide over and help the next guy get his area clean.
Someone please explain zone blocking
Zone run blocking can almost look like pass protect on a lot of plays. Less pancaking and more guiding D where you want them to go with footwork.
It's actually easier taught scheme than man, but road grader man blockers would have limited mobility to execute zone very efficiently.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:45 pm to headboard banger
If Grimes comes up with something called...gulp...drop tackle then I will start breaking stuff.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:51 pm to Mayhawman
Didn't Mike Shanahan pioneer the zone blocking concept?
Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:52 pm to Mayhawman
quote:
Someone please explain zone blocking.
Simple insight- Zone is blocking an area, if your area is clean (stunt, slant), slide over and help the next guy get his area clean. Zone run blocking can almost look like pass protect on a lot of plays. Less pancaking and more guiding D where you want them to go with footwork. It's actually easier taught scheme than man, but road grader man blockers would have limited mobility to execute zone very efficiently.
Thanks for the explanation. And the end of it explains why Hoko has struggled.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:58 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
It's been around way before that. A lot of teams use both, play dependent. Mostly man scheme using some zone here and there.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 11:18 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:Took Tepper a year to wreck the defense with his system.
the man has been here for less than a year.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 1:14 am to Jrv2damac
Grime a river
Posted on 9/26/14 at 3:13 am to Clark W Griswold
quote:
I'm not a Mawae guy either since he has never even coached before.
Yep, he played 16 years in the NFL (With many Pro-Bowls) but he didn't learn enough in that time period that would make him a great OL coach. 
If Grimes is going to be successful here though, he'll have to recruit OL's that Zone Blocked in high school so there wont have to be such a high learning curve.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 5:11 am to tigerswin03
quote:
this is what our fan base needs to do for this entire team , all the skill positions on offense is young , new blocking scheme , new interior defensive line and lots of young players all over the field .... why don't we just wait and see what this team looks like after more than three games ...
This is pretty much how I feel, just waking up at 5 in the morning the day before the game. I'll just wait to see us grow. It's really not much we can do other than switch out some personnel on defense and more spread formations and passing on offense. Everything else will have to work itself out over time.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 5:20 am to LouisianaLonghorn
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Then why the hell did Miles hire him? Surely Miles knew that zone blocking was his specialty. If we're not gonna use the spread offense, then Grimes was a bad fit from the start. In that case it would be more Miles' fault than Grimes'.
My only thought is that they want to go more spread. I mean look at what we are doing in recruiting. We are trying to get 4 WRs a class, and 2016 has us in the thick of legit mobile/dual threat QBs. We have now gotten 3 receiving TEs plus Jeter who looks like he can do both.
Maybe they are slowly trying to change the offense, but that takes time.
I could also just be flat out wrong about going more spread, and they just got a bad hire (a guy that doesn't fit what we like to do).
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:01 am to SportTiger1
He did come from VT. How could anyone not know that? After all VT is just such an offensive juggernaut. Every year they almost win 9 games.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:06 am to texastigerr
Bring back Stud
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:13 am to Datbayoubengal
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My only thought is that they want to go more spread. I
It'd be great if they thought that too...they keep recruiting spread option offensive players and not putting in any packages to utilize that skill set. Although, zone blocking does not indicate a spread attack though.
We have looked best when lined up in shotgun sets with one RB in the backfield blocking or running. Yet, we use this set less than 25% of the time and rarely mix it up.
Our packages under Miles have always been the most predictable in the conference. Now we are just not executing our scheme very well and it is hurting the production. I guarantee you that 75-90% of defensive players and coaches know exactly what we are running on most plays based on the personnel and tendencies of the team. If I can predict it from television, the defense can as well...they spend 100's more hours prepping than me.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:04 am to Bmath
Granted, this team is loaded with young players. Other teams are, also. LSU has to "rebuild" while Alabama, Auburn, and other top notch teams simply "reload" with younger players and never seem to miss a beat. It's parts of this team that are blessed with seniority and experience(i.e. offensive line and linebacker leadership to some extent)that seem to be playing the worse. This team has more issues than just "younger players" I know that I've just started posting so, to all you old hands, take it easy.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:05 am to headboard banger
it never ceases to amaze me how people lose their shite after a loss
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:29 am to Choctaw
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it never ceases to amaze me how people lose their %^&@ after a loss
Point conceded - even if it were by a single point at the last second there would be an outcry. But for the better part of 3 qtrs we were not even competitive - with State - in TS - at night - on nat'l TV.
To the call that a mere "loss" is misleading.
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