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re: Is Fournette that much better than Adrian Peterson?
Posted on 10/24/16 at 10:35 am to RB10
Posted on 10/24/16 at 10:35 am to RB10
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Because his 40 time is all that proves athleticism, right?
please specify exactly what AP did that Fournette won't. i want this on record. You linked up his 40 time and his dash times. Fournette is nearly 20lbs heavier, could truck AP in college, and will likely be faster yet you he's the only physical phenom...
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Posted on 10/24/16 at 10:40 am to Chad504boy
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please specify exactly what AP did that Fournette won't.
Funny thing, I never said Fournette won't do anything, did I? I said let's wait and see.
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You linked up his 40 time and his dash times. Fournette is nearly 20lbs heavier
I linked his entire combined profile. You're the one who singled out one aspect.
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could truck AP in college, and will likely be faster yet you he's the only physical phenom...
More speculation from you. Nice. Again, I never once said Fournette couldn't, or wouldn't, be better.
You should try actually reading posts before responding to them next time. It helps keep you from looking like a fricking moron.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 10:41 am to RB10
crawfishing yssup. want to make an argument that don't have the balls to back it up. you're sitting here like Fournette isn't a proven physical freak and isn't going to put up spectactular combine numbers. Fournette was made for the combine. Pathetic.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 10:42 am to Chad504boy
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crawfishing yssup. want to make an argument that don't have the balls to back it up
Post one instance where I said Fournette wouldn't do anything. I'll wait.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 10:43 am to Chad504boy
No, he's currently not better than a first ballot hall of famer.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 10:45 am to Jcorye1
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No, he's currently not better than a first ballot hall of famer.
Careful, OP is about to go full retard on you.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 10:46 am to Jcorye1
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he's currently not better than a first ballot hall of famer.
if you'd like to get technical, i'd say Fournette is currently absolutely better. How's them apples?
Posted on 10/24/16 at 10:52 am to RB10
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RB10
Can you confirm that you consider projections and speculation of future production based on past production is just a generally stupid thing to do?
I don't want to sway your answer or give you an opportunity to crawfish, but that is what it sounds like and that might be the dumbest argument ever made. It's literally what sports is. Recruiting, drafting, gambling, it's all based on this type of discussion and you are just trying to dismiss it? Jesus.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 10:56 am to GRTiger
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Can you confirm that you consider projections and speculation of future production based on past production is just a generally stupid thing to do?
I think using a players college stats to compare them to one of the greatest players of all time, at their position, is stupid. Also, using college stats, in general, to project success in the NFL is a very poor method.
You can take that however you like.
This post was edited on 10/24/16 at 10:57 am
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:01 am to RB10
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I think using a players college stats to compare them to one of the greatest players of all time, at their position, is stupid.
He's comparing the college stats of each player and then observing how one of them did in NFL to speculate on the other's potential in the NFL. This isn't rocket surgery. It's done every single day. AP was drafted high because of his college production, among other things. LF will be also.
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Also, using college stats, in general, to project success in the NFL is a very poor method.
It's a pretty big variable in the draft, but I'll let NFL teams know to disregard college production when they make their decisions.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:01 am to RB10
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I think using a players college stats to compare them to one of the greatest players of all time, at their position, is stupid. Also, using college stats, in general, to project success in the NFL is a very poor method.
You can take that however you like.
AP has been a long time comparison to LF since they were in highschool. Now closing in on the end of his collegiate career gives us a great look at the comparison of the 2. You also think LF can't prove anything physically until he gets to an official combine.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:06 am to GRTiger
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GRTiger
I never said they should be excluded, but to act like the NFL teams care about college stats is laughable. If they did, the combine/pro days wouldn't exist, and neither would all the talk about "measureables".
I swear some of you get so butthurt when a person suggests that Fournette MAY not be the greatest running back ever that it's embarrassing. All I've said, this entire thread, is how about we wait and see what LF does in the NFL before comparing him to one of the greatest running backs of all time. Look how riled up that simple statement has so many of you.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:08 am to Chad504boy
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You also think LF can't prove anything physically until he gets to an official combine.
I said we can't compare them until he has official numbers, not that he can't prove anything.
Again, reading comprehension is a very, very useful skill.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:12 am to RB10
Take the butt hurt argument to the sec rant. Seriously, so stupid. I'm not against the argument that LF may not be the goat, and you know that's a straw man to avoid the discussion.
Some guys skip the combine altogether. Neither college production nor combine results are the single variable here. And LF's combine shouldn't be the one thing that allows you to make a call on his potential. His on field production, as well as his measurables are very comparable to AP. That's all that's being said here.
The OP used hyperbolic language for an otherwise decent discussion.
Let me ask you this. Would it surprise you more if LF was an all star in the NFL or if he was a bust?
Some guys skip the combine altogether. Neither college production nor combine results are the single variable here. And LF's combine shouldn't be the one thing that allows you to make a call on his potential. His on field production, as well as his measurables are very comparable to AP. That's all that's being said here.
The OP used hyperbolic language for an otherwise decent discussion.
Let me ask you this. Would it surprise you more if LF was an all star in the NFL or if he was a bust?
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:15 am to RB10
You can't compare their college careers to get talking points? If not, why not?
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:15 am to RB10
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AP may be the most physically gifted RB of all time
Physically, he doesn't touch Leonard.
Leonard is bigger and faster. AP has the vision and shiftiness, but Leonard has the physicality.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:16 am to Chad504boy
AP was gonna have close to 2k his final year if he didn't get hurt. Probably would have won the heisman.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:22 am to GRTiger
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Take the butt hurt argument to the sec rant. Seriously, so stupid. I'm not against the argument that LF may not be the goat, and you know that's a straw man to avoid the discussion.
Why? This entire discussion is being driven because of butthurt. Some LSU fans can't take any opinion that doesn't include LF being the best ever.
That's a fact.
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Some guys skip the combine altogether.
Hence the reason I included pro days. Not even mentioning private workouts. Not a single player has ever been drafted, injuries notwithstanding, without working out for the team first. There's a reason for that.
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And LF's combine shouldn't be the one thing that allows you to make a call on his potential. His on field production, as well as his measurables are very comparable to AP. That's all that's being said here.
The OP isn't trying to have a discussion. He wants to definitively say that Fournette is better because of college stats and acting otherwise is disingenuous.
"it's starting to appear that Fournette is extremely superior to AP"
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Let me ask you this. Would it surprise you more if LF was an all star in the NFL or if he was a bust?
All-Pro. That was easy.
This post was edited on 10/24/16 at 11:23 am
Posted on 10/24/16 at 12:38 pm to Chad504boy
very curious to see if he breaks that 4.4 time... 
Posted on 10/24/16 at 12:45 pm to WilliamTaylor21
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but Leonard has the physicality.
AP runs over guys like Troy Polamalu in the NFL.
He is a freak of nature himself and one of the most punishing runners the sport has ever seen. Stop with this shite.
They are very comparable in college, but LF is not more physical. That's absurd.
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