- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Is Coach O going to "Make LSU Football Great Again!"?
Posted on 1/23/17 at 8:37 pm to Tiger Ree
Posted on 1/23/17 at 8:37 pm to Tiger Ree
You not being able to realize that 1 coach out of thousands is an outlier is glorious.
How many time do i have to explain this to you?
If lsu had zero sec titles since 1991 and had 2 top 20 finishes in 2 decades I WOULD BE ABLE TO STOMACH HIRING A CAREER POSITION COACH.
And again, DABO WASNT 55 YEARS OLD AND ACTUALLY WAS THE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR DURING HIS INTERIM TENURE.
Clemson prior to hiring a 41 year old position coach that was the offensive coordinator during his interim tenure= zero acc titles from 1991-2008
Lsu prior to hiring a 55 year old career dline coach that has never ran a successful offense, defense , or program= 3 title game appearances in 15 years, 4 sec titles since 2001,7 top 15 finishes in 11 years.
Hey do me a favor and list another career position coach that has won a national title as head coach.
The simple fact that you think hiring a coach that has never ran a successful offense(DABO RAN HIS OFFENSE DURING HIS INTERUM),defense,or program is a good thing just proves how little you know about football.
Even if he is successful everyone will still remember he wasn't qualified when he was hired. Its what alleva does.
How many time do i have to explain this to you?
If lsu had zero sec titles since 1991 and had 2 top 20 finishes in 2 decades I WOULD BE ABLE TO STOMACH HIRING A CAREER POSITION COACH.
And again, DABO WASNT 55 YEARS OLD AND ACTUALLY WAS THE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR DURING HIS INTERIM TENURE.
Clemson prior to hiring a 41 year old position coach that was the offensive coordinator during his interim tenure= zero acc titles from 1991-2008
Lsu prior to hiring a 55 year old career dline coach that has never ran a successful offense, defense , or program= 3 title game appearances in 15 years, 4 sec titles since 2001,7 top 15 finishes in 11 years.
Hey do me a favor and list another career position coach that has won a national title as head coach.
The simple fact that you think hiring a coach that has never ran a successful offense(DABO RAN HIS OFFENSE DURING HIS INTERUM),defense,or program is a good thing just proves how little you know about football.
Even if he is successful everyone will still remember he wasn't qualified when he was hired. Its what alleva does.
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 8:44 pm
1
Posted on 1/23/17 at 8:43 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:
Are you under the impression that i will be cheering against LSU? I hope O has the best tenure in lsu history. That wont make the process ,in which an unqualified coach was hired, any better.
I hope O wins and does great too Rick.
I agree the search process was a joke, but I don't see how it helps our program to continue to undermine the current head coach
Posted on 1/23/17 at 8:45 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:
And again. When dabo was hired clemson had not won a conf title in 19 years. They had 1 top 15 finish in 19years.
They had 2 top 20 finishes in 19 years.
Is this a knock on Clemson hiring a life-time position coach? Or saying it was a good hire?
quote:
If lsu hadnt won a conf title in 19 years then i could stomach this hire. Also its amazing how you can point to the ONE damn time it worked out. And dabo wasnt 55.
Who cares what you can stomach. I'm glad you can't stomach CEO being the LSU head coach. Dabo may still not be 55, so what?
quote:
What? We had the number 4 class in country when Orgeron was hired dumbass. Educate yourself.
Yes, and lost the head coach, offensive coordinator and special teams coach who was LSU's best recruiter. CEO did not lose one commit and is on pace to finish very strong. Not many programs or coaches can go through coaching turmoil like LSU has and still have a damn strong recruiting class. Herman on the other hand can't even get former commits at UH to follow him the Texas.
quote:
Again, clemson was a very average program when they hired a career position coach.you keep pointing to dabo as if he isnt the exception. Please list 1 other career position coach that is winning titles.
The guy who played in back to back NC games winning the last one isn't good enough for you?
quote:
I wont. Ill be cheering for lsu next year.
Yeah right, it's easy to see how psyched you are for coach O and wanting him to succeed.
quote:
Lol. Keep believimg that the only coach that would take the lsu job was a coach that has never ran a successful offense, defense , or program.
Oh no, never said that. I said you have no idea how many people the AD reached out to and you don't. But, a coach that has never ran a successful offense, defense , or program other than USC and LSU is the head coach at LSU.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 8:47 pm to MOT
quote:
Now that you're halfway attempting to be honest, can you tell me what their head coaching records are from January 2005 through today? That's just a random time reference that popped into my head.
No, but if you want to do the research I'll look at your findings. Herman has only coached for the past two seasons as HC so it shouldn't be too hard for you to look it up.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 8:47 pm to Stephen1979
No one is undermining the coach by saying the athletic director absolutely must go. He must be fired before he has the opportunity to botch another major hire, which will be soon since he is now 0-2 on basketball hires.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 8:48 pm to Rickdaddy4188
It's weird how you keep calling Orgeron a career position coach when he's had multiple HC jobs. You really want this to fail to have some sense of "I told you so." It's sad really how invested you've been in this topic
Posted on 1/23/17 at 8:48 pm to Stephen1979
quote:
agree the search process was a joke, but I don't see how it helps our program to continue to undermine the current head coach
Undermine?
Its a fact that Coach O has never ran a defense.
Its a fact that Coach O has never ran a successful program.
I cant help but say something if someone pisses on me and tells me its raining.
But ok ill just shut up about it.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 8:50 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:
Its clear you cant see the difference between the program Clemson was when Dabo was hired and the prohram lsu is now.
Even if I could, what the hell difference does it make? If Clemson hadn't won a game for the 10 years prior to DS they have still played in the last 2 NC games winning to the most current. I don't get why what Clemson did in the past has anything to do with current LSU and Clemson.
quote:
Whether you like it or not Ed Orgeron is the most unqualified hire in big 6 history
Whether you like it or not he is the head coach of LSU !!!
Posted on 1/23/17 at 8:52 pm to lsufball19
quote:
It's weird how you keep calling Orgeron a career position coach when he's had multiple HC jobs.
He has been a dline coach for 29 of his 32 years. Prior to lsu he has had 1 head coaching tenure. The only thing weird is people like you denying it.
quote:
You really want this to fail to have some sense of "I told you so." It's sad really how invested you've been in this topic
Holy shite. Even if he is successful it wont validate hiring a coach that has never ran a successful offense, defense or program
I hope O is successful. Sorry im not ok being a season ticket holder and my ad refusing to do his job.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 8:53 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:
Even if he is successful it wont validate hiring a coach that has never ran a successful offense, defense or program
Actually that's exactly what it what do
Posted on 1/23/17 at 8:55 pm to Tiger Ree
quote:
Even if I could, what the hell difference does it make? If Clemson hadn't won a game for the 10 years prior to DS they have still played in the last 2 NC games winning to the most current. I don't get why what Clemson did in the past has anything to do with current LSU and Clemson.
Thats the difference dumbass.
Clemson was a below average program when they hired a 41 year old coach that had been their OC during his interim tenure.
Lsu has been one the best programs in cfb since 2001. Thats what you cant seem to grasp.
Would bama elevate theor position coach to HC?
Would Ohio State elevate their position coaches to hc?
Would Michigan elevate their position coaches to HC.
We already know USC wouldnt.
The status of the program matters.
quote:
Whether you like it or not he is the head coach of LSU !!!
Never said he wasnt. Try to keep up little guy.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 8:55 pm to MOT
I agree Alleva needs to go
Posted on 1/23/17 at 8:58 pm to Rickdaddy4188
I'm just saying theres enough negativity coming from the outside. Can we hold off til we lose a game?
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:01 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Michigan hired Brady Hoke and who USC hired instead of O really worked out for them....
Seems like you're more concerned with the optics of a hire than whether those hired actually work out, which is all that really matters.
If Orgeron works out, Alleva saved a shitload of money and hit a home run, yet you're saying it would still be a dumb move? Are you seriously that naive? Hires are validated by how they work out, not what they look like in the media or the internet when they're made.
How did Brady Hoke work out for Michigan? Charlie Strong at Texas? Sark at USC? Muschamp at Florida? Resukts are all that matters so maybe sit back and let it play out before showing your arse
Seems like you're more concerned with the optics of a hire than whether those hired actually work out, which is all that really matters.
If Orgeron works out, Alleva saved a shitload of money and hit a home run, yet you're saying it would still be a dumb move? Are you seriously that naive? Hires are validated by how they work out, not what they look like in the media or the internet when they're made.
How did Brady Hoke work out for Michigan? Charlie Strong at Texas? Sark at USC? Muschamp at Florida? Resukts are all that matters so maybe sit back and let it play out before showing your arse
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:02 pm to Tiger Ree
quote:
I don't get why what Clemson did in the past has anything to do with current LSU and Clemson
Wow. So you dont think the recent past amd program's prestige has any influence on the kind of coaches a job attracts?
Why cant Vandy get a Nick saban?
Why doesnt Wake forrest attract big name coaches?
My god. Im done discussing this with you if you dont realize that better programs should hire coaches with better resumes.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:06 pm to lsufball19
quote:
If Orgeron works out, Alleva saved a shitload of money and hit a home run,
What if he doesn't work out?
And how do we define "work out"?
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:08 pm to MOT
If he doesn't work out, we're not dealing with a massive buyout like we would have if a guy like Herman didn't pan out. Would you rather be A&M or Arkansas staring at 15+ million buyouts and their program treading in mediocrity?
I define work out as putting LSU back into contending for SEC titles every year and at worst not leaving LSU in worse shape than he found it
I define work out as putting LSU back into contending for SEC titles every year and at worst not leaving LSU in worse shape than he found it
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:10 pm to lsufball19
That is vague and generic. Define contending.
What are the details of his buyout?
What are the details of his buyout?
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:11 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:
Clemson was a below average program when they hired a 41 year old coach that had been their OC during his interim tenure.
Lsu has been one the best programs in cfb since 2001. Thats what you cant seem to grasp
So if a team is not good the fans shouldn't care who gets hired? Since LSU has been decent and not as good as Clemson and many others so-called fans like you can't stomach hiring its current coach. Yeah, somehow that makes sense, NOT !!!
quote:
Would bama elevate theor position coach to HC?
Would Ohio State elevate their position coaches to hc?
Would Michigan elevate their position coaches to HC.
Bama, huh? You ever heard of Mike DuBose? Don't know about the others but I'm sure they have at one time or another.
I heard Clemson - the 2016 national champion has a career position coach as their head coach. I'm sure it is bullshite though.
quote:
We already know USC wouldnt.
WE know Pat Haden wouldn't. If not for Haden CEO would be the coach at USC right now. Thank god Pat Haden hadn't been fired yet while CEO was there.
quote:
The status of the program matters
You keep typing some of the stupidest shite. Sometimes if you typed less you may seem half-arse believable. So if a team isn't good they shouldn't care about making hires that will make them better. You are smart???
quote:
Never said he wasnt. Try to keep up little guy.
No problem keeping up. You are the one who can't stomach the fact that Ed oregon is the head coach of LSU. I figure I will point out the fact that he is quite often - thank you very much !!!
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:13 pm to LSU316
quote:What resume?
floating our resume under pressure like that ....not to say O isn't
I want the best for LSU and hope O is successful. But he was still a terrible hire. Emotions making business decisions 101.
Page 4 of 21
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News