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Is Austin Nola a Liability for Us?

Posted on 5/10/09 at 12:38 am
Posted by Beaux
Down On The Bayou
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Posted on 5/10/09 at 12:38 am
I hate to be negative but when a coach walks a 260 (Gibbs) hitter to get to your next hitter(nola) , that doesn't say much about the next hitter(Nola). Also when Nola finally gets an at bat Maineri has no faith in him and makes him bunt everytime. He currently is batting below 220 and below 200 in SEC play. At what point does his offensive liabilities outweigh his defense...and I wouldn't exactly say his defense was superb this weekend either, I would like to see LaMehieu back at short and Schimpth at second and Landry back in the outfield, or move LeMehieu to short and Buzzy to second(from what I understand he can play second) thoughts opinions, please understand this is not a flame and merely an opinion. i understand Nola is the future but we need instant gratification for the 2009 year. Contructive compliments and debate is strongly advised
This post was edited on 5/10/09 at 12:56 am
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9151 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 12:40 am to
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and I wouldn't exactly say his defense was superb this weekend

What? Any errors? Missed plays? Explain.

Our infield is tremendously better with Nola at SS. It's not even close.

Posted by Politiceaux
Member since Feb 2009
17654 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 12:41 am to
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when a coach walks a 260 (Gibbs) hitter to get to your next hitter(nola) , that doesn't say much about the next hitter(Nola)

You do realize this is what coaches do against a good hitter with an empty bag and two outs, right?
Posted by cord1321
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2006
2114 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 12:42 am to
Well as much as i wanna see Leon get one more chance you have got to be kidding me on nola's defense. His defense is superb which is why he is playing. Yes I think his bat is gonna hurt us eventually, but i dont wanna go back to Dj and schimpf. This middle tandem is much better. Also gibbs is swinging a hot bat right now which is why he got walked. He had already hit two balls off the wall tonight which is why they walked him. His average is up almost thirty points in just about a week and a half. Nola's defense is great and for now as long as we're winning everything should stay the same. that is all thank you and have a great day..

Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
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Posted on 5/10/09 at 12:42 am to
Posted by 12Buck
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2005
592 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 12:48 am to
The coach didn't make him bunt to take the bat out of his hands, the bunt was called bc that's what you do in that situation at this level of baseball. There are quite a few other players in our lineup that would be asked to bunt in that same situation. In my mind, at least Nola isn't as much a strikeout liability as Mitchell. I would never suggest benching Mitchel, but at least Nola puts the bat on the ball and has some good at bats. And his defense has made our middle infield outstanding IMO

ETA: The comments about Mitchell are predominantly vs. left handed pitching to be fair.
This post was edited on 5/10/09 at 12:51 am
Posted by Beaux
Down On The Bayou
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 5/10/09 at 12:49 am to
well to name one mistake on his part, not to be an arse, but he forgot to cover second on the steal last night and the throw went into centerfield, and I am not trying to be an arse or know it all,I am just trying to think of ways of how to improve the team. I just feel eventually Nola is going to become a bigger and bigger liability at the plate, thats all
Posted by EmoryTiger
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2006
156 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 12:50 am to
Since PM made the change, the team has been winning. If it ain't broken don't fix it.
Posted by Beaux
Down On The Bayou
Member since Sep 2005
4585 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 12:50 am to
I think he tried to bunt a minimum of two times tonight possibly three, and one of those times no one was on base
This post was edited on 5/10/09 at 12:52 am
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9151 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 12:51 am to
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I am just trying to think of ways of how to improve the team

What is our winning percentage before and after inserting Nola at SS?


This post was edited on 5/10/09 at 12:52 am
Posted by Beaux
Down On The Bayou
Member since Sep 2005
4585 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 12:54 am to
Look guys, I know everyone likes to be smartasses and jackasses on here, but I just wanted to hear evryone's honest opinion on the situation. You can't say you felt good at the end of the game with the bases juiced and Nola up with him ending up striking out looking. At least for that situation I would have put in Buzzy or Pontiff to pinch hit, does anyone else feel this way?
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70381 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 12:55 am to
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The coach didn't make him bunt to take the bat out of his hands

This is correct. Just the execution of the two sac bunts he had so far this weekend would tell you that.

Nola's play reminds of that dirtbag mentality that a lot of the westcoast teams play with. He does the fundamentals well and plays hard. His hitting will come around. But right now, he works counts, sac bunts, play defense, and plays hard. He's going to be Ben Orloff in two years, and I am more than okay with that.
Posted by 12Buck
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2005
592 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 12:57 am to
No. Because with a lead having a strong defense is more important I believe. If we were trailing, I'd say it may be a consideration for coach PM, but with the lead you have to protect that lead with your best defenders.
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9151 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 12:58 am to
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I am just trying to think of ways of how to improve the team

We're 10-1 since the move. I feel pretty fricking good about that.

You think we'd be 11-0 with Landry in the lineup?
This post was edited on 5/10/09 at 1:00 am
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 12:58 am to
if our top hitters are going nola aint a problem. Exactly with the lead defense is what we need and he does a good job. Also landry lost his spot for a reason
Posted by EmoryTiger
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2006
156 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 1:00 am to
Beaux, you are right that Nola has been weak at the plate, and this is disconcerting.

But there is more to making out a lineup than putting in the best hitters and fielders. Chemistry is important for a team. Skip was the best at managing this. He always found the move or change that was needed to spark the team. For whatever reason, the team is winning and winning big after moving Nola to short. Good coaches just let it ride in this situation.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52148 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 1:01 am to
Beaux, if I'm not mistaken this is the 2nd thread that you have started in a week questioning Nola. Just let it go man
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52148 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 1:02 am to
Not to mention, we are playing a hell of a lot better with Nola in the lineup
Posted by Beaux
Down On The Bayou
Member since Sep 2005
4585 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 1:04 am to
This is the second thread and tonights game didn't exactly make me feel any better about the move
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52148 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 1:06 am to
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This is the second thread and tonights game didn't exactly make me feel any better about the move
Yeah, I feel ya. I'm just putting all my faith in Maineiri
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