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re: Interesting take from the OBC on the LSU/Florida mess
Posted on 10/12/16 at 12:18 pm to ATL-TIGER-732
Posted on 10/12/16 at 12:18 pm to ATL-TIGER-732
There is no heat on Florida.
Florida has a full house and the SEC has deuce high.
I don't know what is scarier, that Florida schooled the SEC so bad, or the fact that a week later LSU fans haven't figured why or how.
SMH
Florida has a full house and the SEC has deuce high.
I don't know what is scarier, that Florida schooled the SEC so bad, or the fact that a week later LSU fans haven't figured why or how.
SMH
This post was edited on 10/12/16 at 12:19 pm
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 12:19 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
quote:
What he is asking, I think, is what if next year the LSU-Ole Miss game gets canceled? LSU goes 4-1 in the West, Alabama goes 5-1.
I can see no scenario in which an SEC game is cancelled and not made up unless Jeremy Foley is directly involved.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 12:21 pm to tiger91
With all the crazy drama being stirred up by the SEC Network, regarding the "importance" of playing the Florida game, I finally got fed up and decided to look at the realistic relevance of the postponed game (in terms of its effect on determining the division winners).
Since Tennessee leads the East, and owns the tie-breakers over both Florida and Georgia, I looked at their remaining schedule in comparison to Florida's remaining schedule:
Date/ Tenn (5-1) Plays:/ Florida (4-1) Plays:
Oct 15/ Alabama/ Missouri
Oct 22/ OFF/ OFF
Oct 29/ S. Carolina/ Georgia
Nov 05/ Tenn. Tech/ Arkansas
Nov 12/ Kentucky/ S. Carolina
Nov 19/ Missouri/ Presbyterian
Nov 26/ Vanderbilt/. Florida State
The way I see it, Tennessee wins all their games (after the Alabama game) and finishes 10-2. (Missouri and S. Carolina are their toughest opponents after this weekend).
Florida has to win ALL their remaining games, and I don't see that happening. Realistically, they could be out of contention by the end of October. After this weekend, it's unlikely they beat Georgia, or Florida State. Their games with Missouri, Arkansas, and S. Carolina are not sure wins, either, and that's being kind!
For LSU, not playing the Florida game means that we would have to win all our remaining games, AND Alabama, Auburn, and Texas A&M have to lose an additional game.
Auburn? Not worried about them losing another game - gonna happen lol...but the other two?
Alabama's toughest remaining games (besides LSU):
Tennessee, and Texas A&M
Texas A&M's toughest remaining games (besides LSU):
Alabama, and Ole Miss
So yeah, in conclusion, it's a mighty stretch to get LSU to the Championship this year. I took the time to put this together for all the uninitiated out there. My advice? Adjust your metrics and just enjoy the fact that our Tigers are playing like Tigers again!
It's a transition year, but the future looks very bright from my perspective. Sounds like Yaw Yaw made a splash last Friday making the rounds.
Peace, ya'll.
Since Tennessee leads the East, and owns the tie-breakers over both Florida and Georgia, I looked at their remaining schedule in comparison to Florida's remaining schedule:
Date/ Tenn (5-1) Plays:/ Florida (4-1) Plays:
Oct 15/ Alabama/ Missouri
Oct 22/ OFF/ OFF
Oct 29/ S. Carolina/ Georgia
Nov 05/ Tenn. Tech/ Arkansas
Nov 12/ Kentucky/ S. Carolina
Nov 19/ Missouri/ Presbyterian
Nov 26/ Vanderbilt/. Florida State
The way I see it, Tennessee wins all their games (after the Alabama game) and finishes 10-2. (Missouri and S. Carolina are their toughest opponents after this weekend).
Florida has to win ALL their remaining games, and I don't see that happening. Realistically, they could be out of contention by the end of October. After this weekend, it's unlikely they beat Georgia, or Florida State. Their games with Missouri, Arkansas, and S. Carolina are not sure wins, either, and that's being kind!
For LSU, not playing the Florida game means that we would have to win all our remaining games, AND Alabama, Auburn, and Texas A&M have to lose an additional game.
Auburn? Not worried about them losing another game - gonna happen lol...but the other two?
Alabama's toughest remaining games (besides LSU):
Tennessee, and Texas A&M
Texas A&M's toughest remaining games (besides LSU):
Alabama, and Ole Miss
So yeah, in conclusion, it's a mighty stretch to get LSU to the Championship this year. I took the time to put this together for all the uninitiated out there. My advice? Adjust your metrics and just enjoy the fact that our Tigers are playing like Tigers again!
It's a transition year, but the future looks very bright from my perspective. Sounds like Yaw Yaw made a splash last Friday making the rounds.
Peace, ya'll.
This post was edited on 10/12/16 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 10/12/16 at 12:21 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
I'm good with this for one reason. It takes away the advantage for who plays the weaker schools on any given year from the rotating.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 12:26 pm to Just_Fight_Baby
quote:
Florida has to win ALL their remaining games, and I don't see that happening. Realistically, they could be out of contention by the end of October. After this weekend, it's unlikely they beat Georgia, or Florida State. Their games with Missouri, Arkansas, and S. Carolina are not sure wins, either, and that's being kind!
What does the FSU have to do with anything?
Posted on 10/12/16 at 12:36 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
The only way I see the rules changing would be if all schools agreed to it and I doubt that would ever happen.
I'm not sure who all lost to who but i'm sure there is one school that would say "hell no you aren't taking away a loss (Or possible loss) from "team X" half way through the season" especially since the rules would change for two schools that may not even be in contention for much longer.
Edit: If they would somehow manage to change the rules the longer they wait to do it the worse it looks especially if another team get screwed because if the change.
I'm not sure who all lost to who but i'm sure there is one school that would say "hell no you aren't taking away a loss (Or possible loss) from "team X" half way through the season" especially since the rules would change for two schools that may not even be in contention for much longer.
Edit: If they would somehow manage to change the rules the longer they wait to do it the worse it looks especially if another team get screwed because if the change.
This post was edited on 10/12/16 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 10/12/16 at 12:50 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
quote:I may be wrong here...
Now that we have OT, how could 2 teams in the West end up in a tie? I can think of 1 possibility, and it has never happened in the past. May never happen in the future.
To use an example from not so distant past:
AR beats LSU
LSU beats Bama
Bama beats AR
rest of west gets curb stomped.
3 way tie with each holding a head-2-head tie breaker over the other (assuming head-2-head would remain first tie breaker)
ETA: a "near" example. Didn't happen, but almost did twice if I remember correctly. Or had the possibility of happening twice.
This post was edited on 10/12/16 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 10/12/16 at 12:51 pm to sicboy
frick Spurrier!!!
is he available?
is he available?
Posted on 10/12/16 at 1:44 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
Right you are! FSU has no bearing on divisional play, unless the unlikely event of a tied conference record between two teams. Then the Tiebreaker Rules come into play:
Head-to-head competition between the two tied teams. Although all division rivals meet during the season and NCAA overtime is played in case of a tie game, NCAA Rule 3-3-3, Suspending the Game, has two provisions (c and d) for a tie game in case of weather or other emergency situation, or logistics makes it impossible for the two tied teams' game to be played in case of severe weather. As such, SEC rules still contain the remaining procedures if those circumstances were to happen.
Records of the tied teams within the division.
Records against the team within the division with the best overall (divisional and non-divisional) conference record and proceeding through the division. Multiple ties within the division will be broken from first to last.
Complete record vs. all non-divisional opponents.
Complete record vs. all common non-divisional teams if there be any.
Record vs. common non-divisional opponent (if there be any) with the best overall conference (divisional and non-divisional) record and proceeding through other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within their division.
Best cumulative conference winning percentage of non-divisional opponents.
Coin flip of the tied teams.
Head-to-head competition between the two tied teams. Although all division rivals meet during the season and NCAA overtime is played in case of a tie game, NCAA Rule 3-3-3, Suspending the Game, has two provisions (c and d) for a tie game in case of weather or other emergency situation, or logistics makes it impossible for the two tied teams' game to be played in case of severe weather. As such, SEC rules still contain the remaining procedures if those circumstances were to happen.
Records of the tied teams within the division.
Records against the team within the division with the best overall (divisional and non-divisional) conference record and proceeding through the division. Multiple ties within the division will be broken from first to last.
Complete record vs. all non-divisional opponents.
Complete record vs. all common non-divisional teams if there be any.
Record vs. common non-divisional opponent (if there be any) with the best overall conference (divisional and non-divisional) record and proceeding through other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within their division.
Best cumulative conference winning percentage of non-divisional opponents.
Coin flip of the tied teams.
This post was edited on 10/12/16 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 10/12/16 at 2:05 pm to sicboy
All this East vs. West aside. The SEC has become too large and is basicly two conferences in some sort of alliance. The disparity in conference schedules is ridiculous and the permanent cross over opponent is just a bye product of appeasing Bama yet again. Bama wanted to maintain their Tennessee rivalry and Aubie wanted the same with UGA so the rest of the SEC has to go thru this stupid crap when the obvious solution is to put all of these teams who can't live without each other in the same damn division.
Just more SEC Bama bias. Spurrier saw it for what it was and said it long ago.
Just more SEC Bama bias. Spurrier saw it for what it was and said it long ago.
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