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re: In the last 5 years combined LSU only has 83 more first downs than opponents
Posted on 1/9/13 at 9:50 pm to pellietigersaint
Posted on 1/9/13 at 9:50 pm to pellietigersaint
I post facts...you respond with:
Pumper Prime Directives:
1. Name calling trumps facts
2. Hyperbole trumps reality
3. False equivocation trumps truth
quote:
I'm sick of all your dumbass posts and threads
Pumper Prime Directives:
1. Name calling trumps facts
2. Hyperbole trumps reality
3. False equivocation trumps truth
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Posted on 1/9/13 at 10:01 pm to theunknownknight
Here is a fact:
With each new thread you start, you you prove to be an immense crybaby
With each new thread you start, you you prove to be an immense crybaby
Posted on 1/9/13 at 10:02 pm to pellietigersaint
quote:Pumper Prime Directives:
Here is a fact:
With each new thread you start, you you prove to be an immense crybaby
1. Name calling trumps facts
2. Hyperbole trumps reality
3. False equivocation trumps truth
Posted on 1/9/13 at 10:03 pm to theunknownknight
quote:Hello Pot, meet Kettle
Pumper Prime Directives:
1. Name calling trumps facts
2. Hyperbole trumps reality
3. False equivocation trumps truth
Posted on 1/9/13 at 10:05 pm to theunknownknight
quote:
1. Name calling trumps facts
ok, you are the chief anti-pumper! your job is to be the realist in the group. you think of yourself as being on a noble mission. you use the pumper tag of honor.
so, even tho we have an elite winning %, you have mined the negatives that tear down winning.
i know, i know... tl,dr ... but, i'm not writing this for you, just for the others that agree w/ me.
so, just read my sig line:
Winners - people who tell you what they did and not people who tell you what they think you ought to do.
ha, ha, are you a winner.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 10:08 pm to theunknownknight
Since you're in a research mood, can you find out how many 80+ yard touchdown drives LSU had this year? Bama had 4 against a pretty good defense Monday night. Les Miles basically waits for a turnover or a big kick return before we attack and try to score.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 10:08 pm to theunknownknight
quote:
Ole Miss has 81 more over 5 seasons...in less games
So what you're saying is first downs don't correlate to program success?
I'm glad you answered your own question.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 10:11 pm to theunknownknight
quote:
theunknownknight
p.s. you have more information than a computer. but, your immaturity will always triumph.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 10:12 pm to funnystuff
quote:Pumper Prime Directives:
Hello Pot, meet Kettle
1. Name calling trumps facts
2. Hyperbole trumps reality
3. False equivocation trumps truth
one could make a logical argument that your post was a 1/3 combo.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 10:17 pm to JR Hamilsbach
quote:
You own a Lamborghini and you're driving it like a Prius
does he own a Lamborghini? if so, it is probably better that he does drive it like a Prius. if so, what a waste of car ...
Posted on 1/9/13 at 10:19 pm to EarthwormJim
quote:
Oh oh oh do points next.
LSU- 2,008 points
Opponents- 1,148 points
Give or take me fat fingering my phone calculator.
Comes out to 30.4 points a game and giving up 17.4.
This post was edited on 1/9/13 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 1/9/13 at 10:21 pm to theunknownknight
Yeah, it's not like this stat could be skewed because of shorter fields from defense and special teams. That would just make too much sense.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 10:51 pm to EarthwormJim
quote:
So what you're saying is first downs don't correlate to program success?
The original 12 SEC teams going back 5 seasons. The correlation is obvious. Statistically, having a +~80 first down differential leads to a 60% winning rate which is simply average in the SEC.
By the way, Florida is apparently better than us over the last 5 years as well as obviously Bama.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 11:01 pm to BeeFense5
quote:
shorter fields
How does Alabama, who has had the #1 defense in the nation, statistically and realistically, for about 5 years running now get so many first downs on the short fields?
Posted on 1/9/13 at 11:07 pm to theunknownknight
quote:
The original 12 SEC teams going back 5 seasons. The correlation is obvious. Statistically, having a +~80 first down differential leads to a 60% winning rate which is simply average in the SEC.
LSU has around +80 differential and 77% win percentage over that time, so obviously that differential is enough to sustain a successful program.
Also there's only 2 teams around +80, hardly enough to make any statistical analysis.
So again you answered you own original question by showing LSU has sustained success with that +~80 differential.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 11:13 pm to EarthwormJim
quote:
LSU has around +80 differential and 77% win percentage over that time, so obviously that differential is enough to sustain a successful program.
Also there's only 2 teams around +80, hardly enough to make any statistical analysis.
So again you answered you own original question by showing LSU has sustained success with that +~80 differential.
In other words...you can't read. The top schools in the SEC have at least TWICE many first downs as us. Then there is a huge drop off before tier two, the Ole Miss tier, that's where we are. So, per statistical significance, which team doesn't belong in tier two. I'll let you guess.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 11:16 pm to Choupique19
quote:
How does Alabama, who has had the #1 defense in the nation, statistically and realistically, for about 5 years running now get so many first downs on the short fields?
They've been great at getting 3 and outs, leading to more possessions not necessarily shorter fields.
Over the last 5 years, Alabama never gave up 200 first downs in any season. LSU has allowed over 200 first downs every season in that time period.
So that's one main reason Alabama's first down differential is so much better.
Also I'm curious why the time span is only the last 5 years, when the site includes stats from the last 6 years.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 11:19 pm to EarthwormJim
quote:
They've been great at getting 3 and outs, leading to more possessions not necessarily shorter fields.
Wait...so now LSU's defense in 6 times inferior to Alabama?
Posted on 1/9/13 at 11:20 pm to theunknownknight
quote:
In other words...you can't read. The top schools in the SEC have at least TWICE many first downs as us. Then there is a huge drop off before tier two, the Ole Miss tier, that's where we are. So, per statistical significance, which team doesn't belong in tier two. I'll let you guess.
Which shows that first down differential doesn't = team success, since obviously LSU is tier 1 in winning percentage.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 11:20 pm to EarthwormJim
Probably because 6 years ago was the last time allowed LSU to try and move the ball on offense. Near the end of 2008, Miles said screw all that 3 phases of the game talk, we're going to try and win with only defense and special teams.
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