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Posted on 3/28/14 at 6:04 pm to
Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
10509 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 6:04 pm to
He freaks out too easy and doesn't coach well under pressure. The hitting has never improved. If you wanna get back to dominance you go throw Miles money at George Horton.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 6:29 pm to
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This is all because of les, let's be honest.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 6:29 pm to
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This is all because of les, let's be honest.


nope. it's Obama's fault. fact.
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
4450 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 6:34 pm to
ell_13

i will tell you this, i was wrong on the percentage of players i thought he recruited for that 2009 team. 5 of 9 starters he actually recruited. no, he does not get credit for the tr fr of the 2007 team. not as drastic as i thought. but you act as though the entire team was "his". you are far from accurate as well.

also, may have been wrong about ole miss being the team. go ask clay dirks how he felt about sr night on a wed. and his parents not making it. my point is simply that you do not do that to the kid. no matter what. if that were your kid, you would feel differently. when pm came in, he thought he was bigger than the program. i do not believe this is the case any longer.

i have no problem whatsoever admitting being wrong about anything. you just need to relax.
Posted by Slim
Poplarville, Mississippi
Member since Sep 2006
2485 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 6:39 pm to
Did you feel that way when he won the NC?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85031 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 6:48 pm to
My point was that it wasn't as drastic as you thought. I never tried to say he recruited that whole team. Schimpf, Ochinko, Dean. Not his recruits. Huge contributors. You want to make a point and call people retarded? Get your facts right or expect to be debated and look like a fool.
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
4450 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 7:01 pm to
neither one of us was completely correct. or incorrect.

the rantarded comment was directed at people that make the claim that lm won with nick's players. no, i am not going to investigate the exact number of players that lm recruited that were contributors on his title team.

the two coaches receive very different treatment. that is all.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85031 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 7:11 pm to
How was I incorrect with my response to your retarded comment?

The senior day issue was butchered by your misinformation. It wasn't done to some people's liking. I get it. And you still don't like him because of it. Cool.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
20207 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 7:16 pm to
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He freaks out too easy and doesn't coach well under pressure. The hitting has never improved. If you wanna get back to dominance you go throw Miles money at George Horton.


What exactly would you consider dominance? Horton is a great coach but the man has won the same number of titles as Mainieri.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23066 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 7:20 pm to
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He freaks out too easy and doesn't coach well under pressure. The hitting has never improved. If you wanna get back to dominance you go throw Miles money at George Horton.



NCAA stat rankings for 2013 season:

Hits- 3rd in the whole country (722 total)

Runs- 9th in the whole country (439 total)

Batting Average- 19th in the whole country (.305)

You're wrong. You suck.
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
4450 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 7:22 pm to
neither one of us stated a specific number of players that he recruited. i incorrectly thought it was more. you jumped like it was all of them. that is what i meant by neither one of us being 100% correct.

your response had zero to do with my rantarded comment. i will repeat myself. lm wins at an unprecedented % here, and seems to have fewer fans than pm, who also wins as many games games as anyone.

i got the team LSU was playing for the senior night wrong. sue me. i am 100% correct in the way he handled things back then. do i think he is the same coach now, no.
Posted by tigerbait3488
River Ridge
Member since Dec 2007
10451 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 7:56 pm to
PM has done a very good job with the program. He is one of the most respected baseball managers in the country and recruits his arse off. We lost some guys and a down year was to be expected hitting wise. Every program goes through this time to time.....and honestly, wtf is wrong with the program now to have this kind of thread? Absolutely Nothing!! fricking program is in great shape. The people down on PM do not understand the game.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85031 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 8:00 pm to
I only listed 3 players. How is that reacting as though it was the whole team? I just don't see why you would think I was implying they were all his.

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lastly, i have never liked him, and probably never will.
You say this and blame the senior night as if it's the worse thing he could possibly do. So you're using that one instance to never like him? Even though you say he's not like that anymore?

All in all, it was just an odd, terribly-put-together post that I took exception to since so much was wrong with it.
Posted by BRTIIGER58
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
470 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 8:22 pm to
With the resources PM has available to him he is an underachiever at LSU. Great players come to LSU because of the incredible fan support, facilities and tradition not because of his outstanding recruiting efforts. You should expect better results than we have had with the talent we can inherently attract.
He is not a poor coach but most definitely not a superior one.
Posted by avondale88
Montgomery
Member since May 2009
2634 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 8:30 pm to
I thank God for posters like you. The majority of the posters here think that LSU should fire a coach immediately after he loses his first game. According to the majority of idiots who post here, LSU should be undefeated in every major sport.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
20207 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 8:32 pm to
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With the resources PM has available to him he is an underachiever at LSU. Great players come to LSU because of the incredible fan support, facilities and tradition not because of his outstanding recruiting efforts. You should expect better results than we have had with the talent we can inherently attract. He is not a poor coach but most definitely not a superior one.


Just curious but what do you consider acceptable results for an LSU baseball coach? Say over a 5-10 period.
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
13019 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 8:40 pm to
My only real gripe against CPM is that all of his position players recruited fit the same mold.
They are small and speedy, and can play multiple positions in the field.

Don't get me wrong, we've put out a great defensive infield every year since 09 and a good outfield MOST years.

I just think he went too extreme with the bat changes.
Get a big hard hitting first baseman here.
Get a big hitting left fielder.
Maybe a third baseman who can mash.
The biggest one, a damn DH!
Now I realize its not as simple as said to grab every one of those players, but you should get some now and then.
You cant field a team full of big guys anymore, but you should pull some in here and there.
Overall I really like CPM.
Posted by tigerbait3488
River Ridge
Member since Dec 2007
10451 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 8:53 pm to
Everyone posting about the lack of power recently.....do yall forget we had a guy last year who was one of the top home run producers in Katz. The lack of power this year can be attributed to losing talent and of course the bats. We will be smashing home runs again in the future. Like I said before, programs go through this. PM knew what he had coming in and understands what he needs in the future. You guys are acting as if we never will be hitting the ball over the fence again. Quit crying....we have a good squad who will fight amd expect to win every game. The lack of hitting is no surprise this year. We just have to win games in different ways.
Posted by BRTIIGER58
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
470 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 9:18 pm to
PM has been at LSU a full 7 seasons. In 3 of those seasons his teams have finished 5th in the SEC West. That means 42 percent of the time his teams finish next to the bottom of their division. This season does not look promising so far either. Not good results for a program that attracts elite talent. I would expect much more consistency from our baseball program with its resources, fan support and tradition.
I would say that PM has underachieved as our head coach when you look at his overall body of work.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 9:24 pm to
Not YOU again!
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