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re: If you blame this on coaching, you're a moron
Posted on 3/20/15 at 9:26 am to tenacious
Posted on 3/20/15 at 9:26 am to tenacious
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This one is totally on the players. Sorry JJ haters.
No..no...its not. CJJ appears to have the situational awareness of a turnip at certain points in every game. He simply does not know how to stymie another team when they start a run and cant seem to figure out how to get our guys to crush the life out of teams we clearly have on the ropes. Using timeouts more effectively would certainly be a step in the right direction in helping this team maintain its composure down the stretch and resting our bigs, if even for a few minutes, to help them make it to the end of the game.
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 9:31 am to tenacious
I think this was the biggest problem of last night.
Quaterman-38 Minutes
Martin-40 Minutes
Mickey-38 Minutes
Hornsby-36 Minutes
Patterson-32 Minutes
Gray-13 Minutes
Malone-2 Minutes
Anyone know why Bridgewater didn't get any playing time at all? These guys were clearly gassed in the last 10 Minutes of the game. Even if LSU would have won the game how far do we expect to go with a 6 players getting minutes?
Quaterman-38 Minutes
Martin-40 Minutes
Mickey-38 Minutes
Hornsby-36 Minutes
Patterson-32 Minutes
Gray-13 Minutes
Malone-2 Minutes
Anyone know why Bridgewater didn't get any playing time at all? These guys were clearly gassed in the last 10 Minutes of the game. Even if LSU would have won the game how far do we expect to go with a 6 players getting minutes?
Posted on 3/20/15 at 9:37 am to tubucoco
We played the same way the football team played last year Dominate until the last minute.
Things happen & I feel bad for the players & the last shot was pure luck!
By the way do the players know what a free throw is? 
Things happen & I feel bad for the players & the last shot was pure luck!
By the way do the players know what a free throw is? This post was edited on 3/20/15 at 9:40 am
Posted on 3/20/15 at 9:42 am to tenacious
I wonder if all the fans saying that you can't blame JJ are saying the same thing about CLM when a football player throws an interception, fumbles, or does something else to cost the football team a game
Posted on 3/20/15 at 10:04 am to tenacious
Well coached teams make their free throws. It's a fundamental aspect of the game. Sorry if you don't like it.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 10:09 am to Drakeo1990
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I think this was the biggest problem of last night.
Quaterman-38 Minutes
Martin-40 Minutes
Mickey-38 Minutes
Hornsby-36 Minutes
Patterson-32 Minutes
Gray-13 Minutes
Malone-2 Minutes
Anyone know why Bridgewater didn't get any playing time at all? These guys were clearly gassed in the last 10 Minutes of the game. Even if LSU would have won the game how far do we expect to go with a 6 players getting minutes?
Which kind of pokes a hole in the "Johnny as a great recruiter" meme. A great recruiter would have enought quality depth by his third year running a program to be able to rotate more than 7 guys throughout the course of a game.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 10:36 am to tenacious
The mistakes we saw last nite were the same ones we saw all season long. That IS on Coach Jone's shoulders. In those areas, we made no improvement whatsoever.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 10:40 am to Godfather1
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Which kind of pokes a hole in the "Johnny as a great recruiter" meme. A great recruiter would have enought quality depth by his third year running a program to be able to rotate more than 7 guys throughout the course of a game.
Exactly.....simply does not compute.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 10:52 am to RedTigerRulz
The entire team, coaches and players, are to blame. Bad late game coaching combined with terrible player execution.
This post was edited on 3/20/15 at 10:56 am
Posted on 3/20/15 at 10:57 am to tenacious
Wrong.
It is on the coaches.
It is the coach's job to get the players mentally and physically prepared to handle pressure situations.
AND, it is the coach's job to know where his players are mentally and physically at the end of a game and make adjustments. Mickey was clearly not capable of performing at a high enough level late in that game. He was probably exhausted. Coach's fault.
AND, it is the coach's job to make sure that the offense can run effectively in late game situations and make a FG over the last 10 minutes of an NCAA tournament game.
I actually put almost ALL of this on the coaches because it is the coach's job to see when his players are not performing well and to make adjustments, help them focus, motivate them, make substitutions, draw up plays, etc. That is why he is the coach and that is why he gets paid.
This isn't the NBA. Coaches matter A LOT in college basketball. Johnny Jones blew it. The players did too, but he needs to be the one to see that and help them out. That was horrible.
And, it has been happening ALL SEASON LONG. When it happened last night, I wasn't even upset. It was so predictable.
It is on the coaches.
It is the coach's job to get the players mentally and physically prepared to handle pressure situations.
AND, it is the coach's job to know where his players are mentally and physically at the end of a game and make adjustments. Mickey was clearly not capable of performing at a high enough level late in that game. He was probably exhausted. Coach's fault.
AND, it is the coach's job to make sure that the offense can run effectively in late game situations and make a FG over the last 10 minutes of an NCAA tournament game.
I actually put almost ALL of this on the coaches because it is the coach's job to see when his players are not performing well and to make adjustments, help them focus, motivate them, make substitutions, draw up plays, etc. That is why he is the coach and that is why he gets paid.
This isn't the NBA. Coaches matter A LOT in college basketball. Johnny Jones blew it. The players did too, but he needs to be the one to see that and help them out. That was horrible.
And, it has been happening ALL SEASON LONG. When it happened last night, I wasn't even upset. It was so predictable.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 11:01 am to tenacious
You're a moron for creating this thread.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 11:10 am to tenacious
His players, His program, his fault. I know this team has sucked at times with ft, but seriously, draw something up and give the ball to martin. I like Johnny, but he sucks as a coach
This post was edited on 3/20/15 at 11:12 am
Posted on 3/20/15 at 11:14 am to Drakeo1990
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Quaterman-38 Minutes
Martin-40 Minutes
Mickey-38 Minutes
Hornsby-36 Minutes
Patterson-32 Minutes
Gray-13 Minutes
Malone-2 Minutes
Up 16 points and this is the minutes. Jones is the only one to blame. I can't even blame the players, they gave it their all. Johnny shat the bed.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 11:16 am to Godfather1
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Well coached teams make their free throws. It's a fundamental aspect of the game. Sorry if you don't like it.
So Louisville and Michigan State are not well coached teams this season?
Posted on 3/20/15 at 11:28 am to b rod lsu
the fatigue factor also contributed on the glass. we went from dominating to giving them second (and sometimes third) opportunities. led to some heavy legs and arms on those FTs as well
This post was edited on 3/20/15 at 11:29 am
Posted on 3/20/15 at 11:30 am to Godfather1
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Well coached teams make their free throws. It's a fundamental aspect of the game. Sorry if you don't like it.
Phil Jackson and Pat Riley coached Shaq. They aren't good coaches?
Posted on 3/20/15 at 11:36 am to AlaTiger
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And, it has been happening ALL SEASON LONG. When it happened last night, I wasn't even upset. It was so predictable.
I agree that coaching has a ways to go, but also think a lot of this falls on the players as well. They are the ones that kept dissapearing at the end of games. How can you help guys out that can't make a shot at the end of the game? Unless the team doesn't practice free throws, I seriously doubt, they are the one's missing them. This team had open shots late in the game, and they missed them. On a couple of occasions players were in position for offensive rebounds and second chance follow ups, they missed those too. They had clear lanes to drive to the basket resulting in free throw attempts, they missed them. I just don't see how it falls solely on the coach when if the team would have just made 25% of their shot and 2 free throws, we would be in the round of 32.
Don't know why Bridgewater didn't play more, I fault the coaches for not letting someone with a lot of experience spell some of the tired players. Really had no one else to turn to though.
This post was edited on 3/20/15 at 11:37 am
Posted on 3/20/15 at 11:38 am to Drakeo1990
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Quaterman-38 Minutes
Martin-40 Minutes
Mickey-38 Minutes
Hornsby-36 Minutes
Patterson-32 Minutes
Gray-13 Minutes
Malone-2 Minutes
Considering that we essentially play six guys during a game, I'll never understand why Johnny continues to take timeouts home. You'd think the staff would plan to use timeouts to give guys a rest periodically.
Watching free throws fall short was a sign of fatigue. Going from dunk putbacks in the first half to being dominated in the lane in the second half was a sign of fatigue. All of this occurring while I see three dots under LSU's score on the screen was frustrating. Even if you don't think you need to use a timeout from a strategic standpoint, recognize that our thin rotation needs to rest periodically.
Last night was a team loss. Coaches and players both didn't get it done. Let's remember that NC State made a lot of difficult shots to stay within striking distance when LSU was living in the paint.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 11:44 am to HerbTyler985
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I'll never understand why Johnny continues to take timeouts home.
The only sense I can make of it is if he thinks fatigue is an absolute. Jones may try to have their adrenaline carry them through the end of the game instead of letting them sit for a minute where they realize how tired they are. I liken it to trying to finish the end of a race on bad tires. You can pull into the pit to attempt a quick change, falling behind in the process, or you can push on hoping they don't blow out and put you into a wall while trying to stay in the lead.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 12:04 pm to spiderman
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If you think Jones is a competent coach, you are a moron
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