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re: If we had hired Herman but had same result in first 3 games?
Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:16 pm to PaperTiger
Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:16 pm to PaperTiger
Stop presenting facts. Nega's don't like that.
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:27 pm to Dawgfan128
quote:As long as we recognize the charity involved in giving the job to O, I suppose you are on to something.
If you are, hopefully someone else will believe in u and offer you another chance.
quote:Served at OC at four schools, breaking records at each, leading the conference in offense I think 5-6 times. OC of a National title team.
Tell me what all Herman has accomplished again?
Took over a pretty decent UH team that was 16-10 the two years prior to him getting there and was 22-4.
O took over a team that was 21-16 the three years prior to his arrival, he as 10-25. Nutt came in and went 22-16.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:29 pm to sheek
quote:Of course he was.
Hell relatively speaking I think Johnny Jones is more qualified.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:48 pm to PaperTiger
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Hermam lost by 24 points to the San Diego Aztecs just last year. He also lost to Navy and SMU beat them by 22 points.
Yea at Houston. I'm talking about having LSU's talent.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:54 pm to LSUDonMCO
Herman's Texas team looks much improved from last year. I still think he would have been a better choice. If Orgeron had coached Texas on Saturday night, they would have lost to USC by multiple tds.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:57 pm to Dignan
This is Alleva"s way of lowering expectations. Hire someone that brings LSU back to 7-5, 6-6, 5-7 type records then the next guy wins 8 games and the fans think he is the greatest.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:01 pm to LSUDonMCO
I think with Herman's better track record as a HC, he would have more of a pass than O. Everyone is concerned that O will be a disaster..... Saturday only showed how bad it can be. O was a risky bad hire.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:21 pm to Day Wisher
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I'd give Herman more rope than Orgeron based on past performance as a HC.
This. With Herman, it would be tolerated more due to the FACT that he has reputation as a winner and successful head coach. It's blowing up on Coach O due to the FACT that he has a reputation as subpar and an unsuccessful head coach. Despite all of the hype about the binder and the new offense and the CEO hashtag, the Miss State debacle, along with the other issues plaguing this team, is what a large portion of the fan base was dreading and expecting. It's not just the "one game' as many pumpers claim. It's the persistent problems that have hampered this team from game one and culminated with a quality opponent in Miss State.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:31 pm to LSUDonMCO
Lsu hiring o was equivalent to the pelicans hiring gentry.
Someone who has an OK name but has done nothing to earn a HC spot in a prime position. Their predecessor also got fired for being okay, but at least they weren't atrocious.
Someone who has an OK name but has done nothing to earn a HC spot in a prime position. Their predecessor also got fired for being okay, but at least they weren't atrocious.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:35 pm to rbdallas
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in a year with 4 losses
Herman had 3 losses. No need to bold it though.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:41 pm to LSUDonMCO
go look at the 2018 commits. Yes its still early by Herman is doing lights out. O, not so much.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:09 pm to LSUDonMCO
No. Herman had demonstrated success as a HC. A big loss could be a one off.
O was 10-25 as a HC with 15 of those loses by double digits. It's more likely than not his teams get run off the field. There is nothing in O's HC career that suggests he can win against good teams or even lose games by less than double digits.
Herman is a whiny lil bitch but at least has a record of success.
O was 10-25 as a HC with 15 of those loses by double digits. It's more likely than not his teams get run off the field. There is nothing in O's HC career that suggests he can win against good teams or even lose games by less than double digits.
Herman is a whiny lil bitch but at least has a record of success.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:10 pm to The Truth 34
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Yea at Houston. I'm talking about having LSU's talent.
Houston is one of LSUs top recruiting areas. Herman was pulling recruits over us.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:23 pm to LSUDonMCO
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If we had hired Herman but had same result in first 3 games?
We could be comforted by the fact we don't have fricking Ed Orgeron as our coach.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:58 pm to moneyg
leadership starts at the TOP, not in the Press box
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:00 pm to LSUDonMCO
Herman has a history of making programs good.
Orgeron makes them worse.
Orgeron makes them worse.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:02 pm to LSUDonMCO
There would at least be hope that a new coach with fresh ideas would be gearing up to turn things around after taking some early hits. Losing to state by 30 is never acceptable but there'd at least be optimism
DAT CONTINUITY DOE
DAT CONTINUITY DOE
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:22 pm to LSUDonMCO
To some it's the coach. Let's be honest, O could have been undefeated and won a NC and he would still get no respect from some here.
But that's not me. I don't care who is coaching, it's the play on the field that I'm worried about. To me, it's not personal with the coach it's the fact that the coach isn't getting the results LSU deserves.
You can't close practices and talk about how great everyone is doing and raise everyone's expectations for the year and expect a pass when it's exposed as a lie. Had he come out from day one and said it's going to be a difficult year but the kids are working their arse off to give us LSU quality as we rebuild things.... maybe there wouldn't be so much of a melt now.
So if Herman comes in and raises expectations and then provides this kind of play, yes I am still melting and upset at the play.
But that's not me. I don't care who is coaching, it's the play on the field that I'm worried about. To me, it's not personal with the coach it's the fact that the coach isn't getting the results LSU deserves.
You can't close practices and talk about how great everyone is doing and raise everyone's expectations for the year and expect a pass when it's exposed as a lie. Had he come out from day one and said it's going to be a difficult year but the kids are working their arse off to give us LSU quality as we rebuild things.... maybe there wouldn't be so much of a melt now.
So if Herman comes in and raises expectations and then provides this kind of play, yes I am still melting and upset at the play.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:39 pm to LSUDonMCO
Herman has a record as a winning HC and top major college coaching target. Coach Zero couldn't get hired at Syracuse as HC.
So yes... he would get a lot of slack.
So yes... he would get a lot of slack.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 5:09 pm to ShermanTxTiger
I disagree. Houston was in a shite conference. They played nobodies. He lost to terrible teams. But he beat that one ranked team every year. He would not have had that success in the SEC. The situations are not comparable nor should Herman be given any more slack.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 5:11 pm
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