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re: If Valentine was not having "clearance" issues what is our record?

Posted on 10/8/14 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26705 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

The assumption that Valentine is going to be a difference maker is based on hope more than anything.


It's based on the fact that he is 6'4 360. If he could do anything but not get pushed around, he would be better than anything we have been playing at DT. Do you remember Terrance Cody's big arse at Bama? He really did not but was a brick wall. Right now, we need him to fill a dam break in the middle of our defense. Godchaux and LMFAO will then be able to get pressure on the QB also, and we could finally start hitting people behind the line of scrimmage.

These were the only two true freshman defensive line guys during the offseason, that I thought would see the field. Both are very disruptive and stout at the point of attack.

Coupled with Beckwith playing nearly the entirety of games, and Jamal Adams getting starts, we could really look a lot better by the end of the year. It's why I have changed my tune on those last two games of Arkansas and TAMU.

Win the next two, win the back two (we should be clicking with experience and the best players on the field), and play upset to Ole Miss (crappy run game). We could end the regular season on a high note, winning 5 of our last 6.

I've seen mid season changes by LSU in 2010. One was Lee providing the passing with JJ's running, in wins vs UF and Tennessee

JJ playing way better the 2nd half of the season than the first (omitted McNeese St game)
First 6 - 53/101 (52.5%) 546 yards (5.4 ypa) 2 TD 7 int, 58 car 231 yards (3.99 ypc) 4 TDs
Last 6 - 60/99 (60.6%) 837 yards (8.45 ypa) 5 TD 3 int, 63 car (3.92 ypc) 243 yards 3 TDs


Then in 2012 after the loss to UF, we gave Hill the lion share of carries.

We also replaced (had to) a guard and a tackle with a true freshman and redshirt freshman

After the bye, the WR drops almost dissapeared, and Mett looked better.

This season will be a work in progress.
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 2:55 pm to
Same - one DT won't change the outcome of the two losses.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43222 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:00 pm to
Same record.

No one is a savior or a badass until they actually suit up and prove it. I'm sick of hearing about these 'studs'. Show me.
Posted by jimfolse
Vacherie
Member since Jan 2013
186 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:03 pm to
4 and 2, but losses may have been more respectable.


Posted by Brunedog
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2014
6486 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:03 pm to
Same record most likey unless he's a warren sapp type of DT
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:18 pm to
The same as now.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18154 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

Somebody in the middle makes a stop or two on Dak running around, and maybe we pull that one out


Good lord - did you even watch the Miss St game? We got DOMINATED on both sides of the ball from the opening kick.

MSU stopped playing (both offense and defense) early in the 4th quarter when they got up 34-10. If they'd have continued playing their regular game, there's no way we would've scored those late TDs and made the game look close, at least on the scoreboard.

Getting "a stop or two" on Prescott wouldn't have done a single thing to change the outcome of that game. We got crushed.

Good lord.
Posted by BasilBogomil
Member since Dec 2012
6096 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

it may have been nice to have a 370 pounder in the middle


No kidding.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:58 pm to
Literally the exact same.

I love how some people think that Valentine would fix all of our issues, even though nobody has seen him play or anything like that and hes a DT. Could he help? Sure. But its not like Valentine would single handily have stopped Miss St and Auburn. And he doesnt play offense.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 4:10 pm to
Valentine has more hype coming in than LF if you think a guy 400 pounds would change the outcome of any game we played. Take a long break from the computer
Posted by MasonTiger
Mason, Ohio
Member since Jan 2005
16262 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

goatmilker
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56668 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

It's based on the fact that he is 6'4 360. If he could do anything but not get pushed around, he would be better than anything we have been playing at DT. Do you remember Terrance Cody's big arse at Bama? He really did not but was a brick wall. Right now, we need him to fill a dam break in the middle of our defense. Godchaux and LMFAO will then be able to get pressure on the QB also, and we could finally start hitting people behind the line of scrimmage.

These were the only two true freshman defensive line guys during the offseason, that I thought would see the field. Both are very disruptive and stout at the point of attack.

Coupled with Beckwith playing nearly the entirety of games, and Jamal Adams getting starts, we could really look a lot better by the end of the year. It's why I have changed my tune on those last two games of Arkansas and TAMU.

Win the next two, win the back two (we should be clicking with experience and the best players on the field), and play upset to Ole Miss (crappy run game). We could end the regular season on a high note, winning 5 of our last 6.



Like I said...hope. Your post is dripping with it.

That doesn't mean you'll end up being wrong...just that your position isn't based on solid evidence of anything.
Posted by Ironhead985
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
8753 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 4:29 am to
quote:

No one is a savior or a badass until they actually suit up and prove it. I'm sick of hearing about these 'studs'. Show me.
Mf'n This!!
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
7674 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 5:43 am to
This can't be a serious question
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
11926 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:37 am to
He is a true freshman. No true freshman is the "savior" of the football program. We'd still have 2 losses
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
Back Home now
Member since Sep 2006
61135 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:40 am to
Is he cleared now?


ETA
-No update on Travonte Valentine, will know more next week.

oh well
This post was edited on 10/9/14 at 8:48 am
Posted by doclsu08
Member since Nov 2008
826 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:51 am to
quote:

It's Mac's fault


This
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12473 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:54 am to
The same. One freshman would not have made a difference in those 2 lopsided losses.
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