If Les wins the MNC, does he stay at LSU or go Pro?

stays as long as he wants, or gets Bobby Bowdened

He stays and becomes a legend in college football - not just at LSU. He has a want to be like his idol Bo.

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motivating kids and being a finisher in recruiting don't exactly translate to the pro game

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signed, Nick Saban

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yet saban's mediocrity in the NFL (along with many others) should tell NFL teams not to mess with college coaches

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Except that coaches like Jimmy Johnson, Bill Walsh, Tom Coughlin, and (now) Jim Harbaugh make the reward very high for going that route. The fanbase likes it because the coach has a pedigree of success, and the reward is commiserate with the risk if you find the next Bill Walsh. Most coaches have some college experience as well. Mike Tomlin as late as 1999 was coaching in college.

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Except that coaches like Jimmy Johnson, Bill Walsh, Tom Coughlin, and (now) Jim Harbaugh

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JJ was 20 years ago.

walsh was an NFL guy who went to college for 2 years. and he joined the NFL again in 1979. he was an NFL coach from 1968 until 1977. he was a pro coach who spent 2 years as HC of stanford

coughlin was an NFL coach from 1984 to 1990. then he was HC at BC for a couple years, and went back to the NFL

harbaugh looks pretty legit. his coaching career is a bit non-traditional. also he was only in college for like 5 years. his entire career in coaching is really weird and an outlier in any argument. he's certainly not a college "lifer" though

even with saban's NFL background, he had spent a long time in college at MSU and LSU before going back to the NFL. miles was a positional coach in the NFL for like 2 years. other than that, he's been a college coach. he's a "lifer." this isn't a criticism of miles. just stating facts

the 2 games have gone away from each other in the past 10-15 years.

He will go to Mich when the time is right...say 4-8 years from now and retires. That will be the only job he'll leave LSU for. Don't think we wants to rebuild another college program when he's sitting on a gold mine. Pro is way too risky if he doesn't succeed.

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If Les wins the MNC

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He and Chavis are at LSU for a long, long, long, long time. As long as he can continue to recruit NFL talent and replace coaches that leave for promotions, he would be here for a really, really, really long time. Basically until he decides he's done.

And, with his demeanor, I think he could last until he's in his 70s or so if he feels like it.

Not that what I said in any way argued with what you said, except to say that it is good business even when it doesn't work out. You sort of hid the ball with your response to my post.

I responded to the Saban hire should warn people off of college coaches. There are coaches that win at both levels. Walsh was a good coordinator, won at Stanford, won in the NFL, then won at Stanford again. He could coach both games, just like Coughlin. You throw out JJ because of the time horizon without pointing out that the college to pro jump doesn't happen frequently. Then you dismiss Harbaugh as an outlier by begging the question.

Bottom line is, there are huge success stories, huge failures, and it is good business for teams to dabble in college coaches regardless of whether the move pans out.

I think he enjoys being the LSU HC.

I think he will compete for championships, next year and beyond.