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If football had to get a last-second FG to beat the worst team in the SEC....

Posted on 2/3/13 at 12:32 am
Posted by LSUGrad9295
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 12:32 am
Say for example, Drew Alleman hits a 22 yard FG to beat Kentucky, 40-38 this past year. This board would have melted down, the internet would have blown up, Leslie's kids would have been kidnapped, Javi Sanchez would have been blamed, and people would have rioted in the streets. The apocalypse of the program would have been predicted, with visions of 4-8 seasons for the rest of eternity. NO body would have been excited to pull out such a win.

Yet basketball does it today, and there is much love for a team that plays with so much heart and determination. They aren't perfect, but damn if they don't will themselves to victory! Hickey is celebrated for the last 3 minutes that he played today and not over-analyzed for the poor first 37 minutes. The first-year coach is lauded for getting the most out of his talent. (I agree with all of this, by the way)

Funny how football trumps basketball....funny how being spoiled in football causes different reactions than being starved in basketball.

I wish the Rant would behave more like the jubilant basketball fans than the spoiled football fans when we WIN football games.

Just some random thoughts. Great ugly win today! Can't wait to see the guys at home Wednesday vs. Vandy in another winnable game!

And here's to the Rant melting down when baseball loses their first mid-week game to an instate school this year



This post was edited on 2/3/13 at 12:35 am
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 12:33 am to
Solid post.
Posted by LSUsmartass
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 12:33 am to
sunshine pumpers will tell you that the football team couldn't get up for a lowly opponent
Posted by LSUzealot
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 12:36 am to
Great thread!
Posted by tgr4ever
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 12:39 am to
:kige:



Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 12:41 am to
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sunshine pumpers will tell you that the football team couldn't get up for a lowly opponent
Read the OP again. I don't think you get it.
This post was edited on 2/3/13 at 12:42 am
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 12:41 am to
Trying to compare what this team did today, compared to our football team is idiotic. This team is not loaded with talent. They won with effort and heart. Talent wise, they were equal. They beat an SEC team on the road. The football team only plays one or 2 teams a year with equal talent. So your point is, to be kind. Stupid!
Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 12:43 am to
LSU was much more talented than Miss St.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 12:46 am to
quote:

So your point is, to be kind. Stupid!


You missed the point. The point was I was just comparing and contrasting reactions to similar game situations in the 2 sports and where each program stands. Because of where football is and has been the last decade talent wise and result wise, a last second win over a bad SEC team would be unaccepted. Yet a last second win by the basketball team over a bad SEC team is a cause for joy because basketball has sucked so bad the last decade (minus a good year or 2). I think everyone else that posted in the thread got it...
Posted by FamousAmos
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 12:52 am to
While I agree with your post, the talent disparity between LSU football and Kentucky football is far greater than the disparity in LSU and State basketball.

A better analogy would've been LSU football and Auburn football. Oh wait...
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 12:57 am to
quote:

the talent disparity between LSU football and Kentucky football is far greater than the disparity in LSU and State basketball.


Oh I know it wasn't the perfect comparison...but that wasn't the main point I was getting at. It was more to point out where the 2 programs are. It is amazing how good victory tastes when you are starving for wins as compared to when you have been over-eating for years....
Posted by dljtigers
Sulphur, LA
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 1:00 am to
quote:

You missed the point


I don't think you get his point. In football we are far more talented than Kentucky and have had much more success (2 NC's, multiple SEC c'ships, etc.). In basketball not so much.

Therefore, any win in basketball is a success.

I agree with you that we need to be more thankful for every victory but to expect a close victory over a lesser b'ball opponent to get the same reactions as a close victory to a much lesser f'ball opponent is not realistic.
This post was edited on 2/3/13 at 1:15 am
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16923 posts
Posted on 2/3/13 at 1:02 am to
Meh, I don't really agree with the OP's sentiments. The yay, let's just be happy to win at all kind of crap is not going to get you championships. The basketball team is being rebuilt from the cellar. The expectations are quite obviously different. Are Duke fans going to jump up and down with glee if they have to squeak out a win over the worst team in their conference or don't play up to their talent and squander championship opportunities? Personally I think it's obvious and quite reasonable that the reactions are different given how drastically different the two situations are.

Success breeds different expectations. That's part of the process. Would you like us to rush the field if we beat the number one team in football again? Probably not. And the reason is quite obviously because the expectations are now higher because of the elevation of the program.

Incredible come back tonight for the Tigers. I'm looking forward to the day that we are disappointed that this game had to come down to this. That's the day the Tigers will be consistent NCAA tournament contenders and I prefer that to the fleeting thrill and jubilation of having a comeback win against a sub-par team.
Posted by FamousAmos
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 1:03 am to
Starving is definitely the right word
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 1:12 am to
Bball is my biggest love, but even if we are duke you celebrate that win against last place team in road because its much easier to pull upwet in bball and always be happy with any road win. In college bball top rankes teams are always pushed ob the road

In football over course of game majority of time the better more dominant team should impose their will and pull away.
You have much more to worry about when you struggle with bad team in football than bball

The sheer number of games can cause you to get caught sleeping. FFootball you have 1 job for entire week


No bball team is at point to where close wins wins piss them off. Usually teams that play a lot of close games are celebrated
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 1:18 am to
I don't think people would have been as happy if not for the incredible comeback + Hickey taking over at the end of the game. It's was something pretty awesome to watch and it reminds me of the LSU vs. Troy game back in 2009 where J. Lee put on a giant comeback against a less talented team.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 1:24 am to
The point is, so many of you entitled fans have taken all the fun out of football. A win is not fun anymore unless we blow the other team out or it's over Bama.

Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33497 posts
Posted on 2/3/13 at 1:30 am to
quote:

It's was something pretty awesome to watch and it reminds me of the LSU vs. Troy game back in 2009 where J. Lee put on a giant comeback against a less talented team.


And very few people were still around to see it. I enjoyed the hell out of it...even though we had fallen behind. I recall the Rant melting down though...even though we won.
Posted by League Champs
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 1:31 am to
quote:

I don't think people would have been as happy if not for the incredible comeback + Hickey taking over at the end of the game. It's was something pretty awesome to watch and it reminds me of the LSU vs. Troy game back in 2009 where J. Lee put on a giant comeback against a less talented team.

this

We were the defending NC and should have never been in that position, but it was the greatest comeback in LSU history and was amazing to watch
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33497 posts
Posted on 2/3/13 at 1:31 am to
quote:

The point is, so many of you entitled fans have taken all the fun out of football. A win is not fun anymore unless we blow the other team out or it's over Bama.


Much truth is contained in the above words.
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