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re: If B. Harris struggles against Wisconsin, how one dimensional will Miles become?
Posted on 7/28/16 at 12:28 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 7/28/16 at 12:28 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Do you realize lsu's offense put up more yards per game than Ohio State and FSU? While playing a harder SOS. Let me guess, that doesnt matter because your opinion says our 2015 offense sucked
Teams with better YPG than Alabama:
WKU, Twxas Tech, Bowling Green, Georgia State, La. Tech, Southern Miss, MTSU, Indiana, Idaho, Air Force.
Teams Alabama beat that finished with better YPG:
LSU, MS State, Arkansas, Clemson,
See how meaningless that stat is?
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Posted on 7/28/16 at 12:32 pm to logjamming
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like to take Into account wins, titles, standings, head to head, etc.
if you watch Alabama's offense and LSU's offense and can't tell the difference, you're either a troll or just fricking retarded.
Bama's passing game was better. Their offensive production wasnt.
Im sorry facts prove your opinion wrong. Lsu had a more productive offense than Bama , FSU, and Ohio State. Deal with it.
What kind of shite lsu fan gets upset about facts painting lsu in a positive light?
I dont care about your opinion. They dont outweigh facts. It was also your opinion that Miles wouldbalso ve 1 dimensional with Cam Newton and i proved that wrong.
Offense A
437 yards per game
32.8 points per game
Offense B
425 yards per game
32.7 points per game
So youre telling me that offense b is this great offense that is really creative and offense a is this shite offense that makes you shake your head?
Posted on 7/28/16 at 12:35 pm to logjamming
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Teams with better YPG than Alabama:
WKU, Twxas Tech, Bowling Green, Georgia State, La. Tech, Southern Miss, MTSU, Indiana, Idaho, Air Force.
Teams Alabama beat that finished with better YPG:
LSU, MS State, Arkansas, Clemson,
See how meaningless that stat is?
Oh so now youre changing your tune and using wins? K
Whether you like it or not, lsu's 2015 offense was more productive offense than Bama. That's a fact. Deal with it. Youve already proven your opinion to be biased and unreliable.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 12:37 pm to Rickdaddy4188
You're right. I concede to your point. LSU's offense is more productive than Alabama's. YPG is the important thing when considering production. I've been a fool.
Yep. Just like you're using yards per game as the equivalent of production.
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Oh so now youre changing your tune and using wins? K
Yep. Just like you're using yards per game as the equivalent of production.
This post was edited on 7/28/16 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 7/28/16 at 12:37 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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if Harris struggles game one ... we know from experience Miles won't throw much the rest of the year.
That's been proven wrong. Mett struggled at the beginning of 2012, and all the way through the first half of the Bama game. And yet, they kept trying to throw the ball, and it paid off as LSU almost put Bama away by throwing deep outs to OBJ.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 12:42 pm to Mayhawman
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Didn't Greeks invent math?
No. Math was being done before anyone knew what a Greek was.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 12:42 pm to logjamming
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You're right. I concede to your point. LSU's offense is more productive than Alabama's. YPG is the important thing when considering production. I've been a fool.
Dont be so hard on yourself.
Lsu should strive more a more balanced offense like bama. Thats what you and the others should be arguing. Not that our offense sucked. We lack balance making it easier for better defenses to stop us.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 12:43 pm to 1999
quote:What?
not just any SEC teams. Our three biggest games of the year.
Arkansas and Ole Miss are bigger than Florida and Texas A&M? You're only saying that because those are the ones we lost.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 12:43 pm to logjamming
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. Just like you're using yards per game as the equivalent of production.
Wait. You think offensive yards per game ISNT production?
What do you want to use? Yards per play? Points per play? Points per game?
Because all those point to lsu having a productive offense.
This post was edited on 7/28/16 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 7/28/16 at 12:46 pm to Penrod
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Arkansas and Ole Miss are bigger than Florida and Texas A&M? You're only saying that because those are the ones we lost.
Pen you know the line never stays put with them. I just find it really funny that all of the sudden offensive yards per game is no meaningless when its the exact stats thats been used to shite on Miles' offenses his entire tenure.
Now its meaningless
Posted on 7/28/16 at 12:50 pm to Howyouluhdat
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Do you actually believe LSU's offense was better than Bama's??
Absolutely, it was better. But Bama's defense was so dominant that opposing defenses just wore down. Bama's offense is not very imaginative. They run a few running plays, throw that WR screen, and that accounts for a lot of their offense. And when they punt they usually get the ball right back.
Someone who wasn't a Bama or LSU fan might say that they look a lot like LSU's 2011 offense. You know, the one that had a dominant defense to keep giving the ball back.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 12:52 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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Sooooooo, my OP remains true.
The offense in 2013 was not one dimensional.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 1:24 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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You must have forgotten one, fairly recent, national title game.
Dude doesn't make adjustments - ever.
This is college football, you cant completely change your offense. No minor adjustment wouldve worked in that game. You are what you are and Miles kept it close.
Giving his team a chance to get back in it, just no one made a play the entire game.
Jeez some of you should watch other teams play so you dont look so ignorant.
Did anyone notice that Urban Meyer didnt make any adjustments against Mich St last yr? With an all time stacked team. Only cost them the Big 10 championship and an undefeated season.
If u want to criticize the passing game thats fair. But anything else should be compared to all the other great programs first.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 1:27 pm to Penrod
exactly Penrod. bama was 2nd in the entire country in opponents 1st downs per game. their defense constantly gave their offense the ball back
Bama was the 5th(49th)in the sec in plays ran.
Lsu was 3rd (115th)to last in plays ran and lsu's offense still out produced them. Just think if lsu didnt have the 23rd ranked defense.
LSU EVEN HAD A FAR BETTER 3RD DOWN CONVERSION % THAN BAMA.
Bama was the 5th(49th)in the sec in plays ran.
Lsu was 3rd (115th)to last in plays ran and lsu's offense still out produced them. Just think if lsu didnt have the 23rd ranked defense.
LSU EVEN HAD A FAR BETTER 3RD DOWN CONVERSION % THAN BAMA.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 1:30 pm to Penrod
So what some poster would have you believe is that lsu's offense sucked and Bama's was great.
Lsu had
More offensive yards per game.
Higher offensive points per game
Better 3rd down conversion %
Higher yards per play
Yet bama is this beacon of offensive ingenuity and lsu is stuck in the 1970's.
Lsu had
More offensive yards per game.
Higher offensive points per game
Better 3rd down conversion %
Higher yards per play
Yet bama is this beacon of offensive ingenuity and lsu is stuck in the 1970's.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 1:31 pm to LSUANDY25
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Jeez some of you should watch other teams play so you dont look so ignorant.
Tell us, oh wise one.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 1:41 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
Other so called offensive masterminds have qbs struggle too.
Do you realize that ohio state averaged 8 more passing yards per game than lsu?
Thats the offensive coach eveyone touted bevause he took a 3rd string qb and won the title . He had the exact same qbs, played in a shite conf ,and that great offensive mind averaged 188 yards passing while lsu averaged 180.
Do you realize that ohio state averaged 8 more passing yards per game than lsu?
Thats the offensive coach eveyone touted bevause he took a 3rd string qb and won the title . He had the exact same qbs, played in a shite conf ,and that great offensive mind averaged 188 yards passing while lsu averaged 180.
This post was edited on 7/28/16 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 7/28/16 at 1:43 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Other so called offensive masterminds have qbs struggle too.
As many as we have had? Its what LSU is notoriously known for now.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 1:45 pm to LSUANDY25
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No minor adjustment wouldve worked in that game. You are what you are and Miles kept it close.
Giving his team a chance to get back in it, just no one made a play the entire game.
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Did anyone notice that Urban Meyer didnt make any adjustments against Mich St last yr? With an all time stacked team. Only cost them the Big 10 championship and an undefeated season.
That's the first I've heard anyone praise Miles for "keeping it close" and "giving his team a chance to get back in it" on 1/9/12. We must have been watching different games.
And I don't specifically recall what Urban Meyer did or didn't do in the OSU-Mich State game, but I don't think this type of criticism of Meyer is going to stick. The guy won the freaking NC a couple years ago with his 3rd string QB. Talk about having to adjust (massively adjust) on the fly against elite teams!! By the way, I think Meyer's a douche, but I can give credit where it's due.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 1:53 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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As many as we have had? Its what LSU is notoriously known for now.
Only to hard headed lsu fans that dont pay attention to other programs. Lsu isnt known for bad qb play. We are known for being one of the most consistent programs in cfb while playing in the hardest division in cfb.
We had good qb play 06,07,09,2011,2013(and harris was having a really good year until he got hurt(9tds-0 int and was 2nd in the sec in qb rating).
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