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re: I sure hope LSU is better than the stats show

Posted on 12/5/09 at 12:07 am to
Posted by lsutothetop
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Posted on 12/5/09 at 12:07 am to
Penn State:
Record: 9-2
Opp. rec: 68-64
Total ypg: 399.7
Total PPG: 25.3
Opp. ypg: 283.5
Opp. PPG: 12.5
TOP: 32:08
Yds per min: 12.4
Points per min: .79

LSU:
Record: 9-3
Opp. rec: 59-69
Total ypg: 309.7
Total PPG: 25.5
Opp. ypg: 326.6
Opp PPG: 16.0
TOP: 28:21
Yds per min: 10.9
Points per min: .90

There's not much of a difference. Penn State has a significant ypg difference because they hold on to the ball longer, but LSU actually scores more points per minute than Penn State. The point of deriving that stat is to demonstrate that when LSU does have the ball, it moves the ball more effectively than Penn State.

That's important because it matches both teams' styles of play. PSU runs the spread offense, but it doesn't have the Texas Tech two-minute-drill-for-sixty-minutes mentality. PSU holds on to the ball and moves the ball methodically. It's not meant to be a big-play offense; big plays happen because they have playmakers that make big plays happen, not necessarily out of design.

LSU's defensive scheme doesn't allow for this. Chavis is well-known for his prevent defense schemes, which keep players backed up in order to prevent big plays. It sacrifices first downs to prevent touchdowns, basically. This leads to opponents driving down the field - as evidenced by the fact that LSU, on average, loses the TOP battle, as well as LSU's subpar 3rd down defense stats (36.76%, 45th in the country) - but failing to score - proven by the low PPG count and LSU's respectable redzone efficiency defense (T-33rd with 78% conversion, but only 36% converted for TDs).

Basically, the stats are a good indicator of both teams' style of play - and are a bad indicator of which is superior.
Posted by Geaux Shaggy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/5/09 at 12:12 am to
Cliff Notes... Looks like an interesting thread to be a part of
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 12/5/09 at 1:10 am to
You play in the big 10. That's all I need to know.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 12/5/09 at 8:05 am to
quote:

our offense typically looks good for 2 or 3 drives and we manage to get points out of those...so I would call it "opportunistic" (in addition to "shitty").

There are times our offense looks scary good, but those times have been few compared to the times our offense looks out of synch or downright confused. If we put together 3 good drives in a game we're pretty tough to beat since our offense hasn't turned the ball over very often, and our defense and special teams have given us pretty good field position.
Posted by cj2002
louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
2027 posts
Posted on 12/5/09 at 8:27 am to
No!! they have gone down the longer our current coach stays.
Posted by BBATiger
Member since Jun 2005
16528 posts
Posted on 12/5/09 at 8:34 am to
quote:

NittanyLionsRoar
quote:

I hope for a close contest, but I am thinking your offense won't be able to do much


We agree. Playing a medicore LSU team does not have us very motivated. We should be able to cruise through this one.


Signed,
The 2008 Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets
This post was edited on 12/5/09 at 8:35 am
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32457 posts
Posted on 12/5/09 at 8:51 am to
quote:

Stats don't mean shite when you have a want to win
Or a coach who plays not to lose, by using a last second field goal or going into overtime where we'll "take our chances, I like my team".
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35647 posts
Posted on 12/5/09 at 9:03 am to
Somewhere way back when in this post someone brought up the Big Ten bowl record.

I think it's pretty simple to explain. The Big Ten has always ended their season on the Saturday before Thanksgiving (which is being extended a week next year by adding a bye game).

Once the season is complete a bowl team has a maximum of 15 practices. However, teams with multiple bye weeks in a season (think USC) or conference championship games continue regular season practices which do not count against the 15 practice limit before a bowl game.

It seems pretty clear to me that teams that practice an additional two weeks and THEN get their 15 practices before a bowl game will have an advantage over teams that have to take a forced break from practice.

Food for thought.
Posted by cajunjj
Madison, AL
Member since May 2008
7427 posts
Posted on 12/5/09 at 9:14 am to
Stats are for looser's. Check back on the second.
Posted by cajunjj
Madison, AL
Member since May 2008
7427 posts
Posted on 12/5/09 at 9:50 am to
ps#3, U need to look up bandwagon in the Dictionary! I attended Lsu, had family play football there,& Had season tickets for 20 years during the Charlie Mac yrs. I am all ways been an Lsu fan since i was 5 yrs, old. When we loose , we raise hell with the coach, but we stick with the team. Some one should tell u what a fricking retard u really are
Posted by olomgamer231
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2009
259 posts
Posted on 12/5/09 at 10:26 am to
quote:

Somewhere way back when in this post someone brought up the Big Ten bowl record.

I think it's pretty simple to explain.

It isn't that the Big 10 hasn't been relevant in 30 years?
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
59424 posts
Posted on 12/5/09 at 10:29 am to
I haven't read the thread, but the OP is almost definitely an LSU fan in disguise.
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