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I really hope Max Johnson improves on his deep ball

Posted on 3/28/21 at 1:38 am
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
25715 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 1:38 am
I may be in the minority but I thought he struggled with the deep ball last year. I know he will only get better because he has everything else you want in a quarterback. I feel confident that coach Peetz and the off-season with the wrs will help his accuracy on his deep ball. If he gets that down, watch out! I still won’t count out Brennen or Finley. All three are talented and I’m so happy that we don’t have to push a true freshman out there like years past. I feel great about our quarterback room and the future going forward with who we have and who we have coming.
Posted by MJforPrez
Member since Dec 2020
445 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 1:51 am to
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I may be in the minority but I thought he struggled with the deep ball last year.


He definitely struggled with it, and that’s putting it lightly. Posters here refuse to acknowledge this and act like he’s QB1.

Brennan is the guy, and if max doesn’t get some SERIOUS improvement going, Nuss will be the guy when Brennan leaves.

I love Max but, damn he’s overrated on this board.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27256 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 3:36 am to
I dont think max is overrated.

I think he came in and did exactly what he's been taught his whole life.

He is smart, accurate, and can move. He knew the entire offense before getting to campus and it showed.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
18759 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 7:29 am to
I love Brennen but he’s too slow and our 3 rd down conversion rate was horrible with him starting
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13461 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 7:45 am to
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Brennen


The kid has been at LSU for years, has a famous last name in South LA, and it’s incredibly easy to spell - yet I still see people misspelling it on here
Posted by SofaKingTrill
Member since Mar 2008
6830 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 7:55 am to
Brennan just looked nervous as hell against a poor Mississippi state team. His pocket awareness was awful too. In that game, he actually stepped up in the pocket, into a sack, a couple times. I think that was the biggest difference between Max Johnson and Brennan, and why people are hoping to see more of Johnson. Brennan was a red shirt Junior who looked scared for his life early in the season, while Johnson didn't look nervous at all as a true freshman. I guess we'll see how it goes. I'll cheer for both, no matter what happens.
Posted by lmt
Houston
Member since Oct 2009
329 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 9:37 am to
Every time I see him throw I see touch but he lacks velocity...
Posted by Tshiz
Idaho
Member since Jul 2013
7587 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 9:38 am to
Max Johnson knows how to go in deep
Posted by geauxrugby
Tulsa, OK
Member since Jul 2012
175 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 9:56 am to
If a QB steps up into the pocket and into a sack, that’s not his fault. That’s on the OLine! The QB is taught to step to square to his target and step into the throw. That space should be clear. That’s not on Brennan!
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11107 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 10:10 am to
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I think that was the biggest difference between Max Johnson and Brennan, and why people are hoping to see more of Johnson.


YES! Max had that Joe type mobility and pocket awareness. His deep ball will improve with time. But that’s easier to improve vs MB and his pocket awareness
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24273 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 10:26 am to
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I love Max but, damn he’s overrated on this board.

It doesn't really sound like you do. Yes, he needs serious work on the deep ball because he was throwing some rainbows out there, but he actually threw a nice bomb in the 4th quarter of the Florida game deep into UF territory. He did everything else really well for a true freshman and helped win two games for LSU that LSU was not favored to win. And he did so without LSU's #1 WR, TE and without their starting RBs. 10 total TDs to 1 Int is pretty damn good when he was missing his best offensive weapons.

He has things to learn obviously, but each QB has his strengths and weaknesses. Brennan is tough, has a great arm and throws a pretty long ball, but his weakness is his running ability. So each QB brings different things to the table while having some things to work on.
Posted by eltigre2
The Woodlands, Tx
Member since Feb 2019
626 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 10:50 am to
The problem with the deep ball for all the QB was 2 fold. The main one was the OL who couldn’t hold long enough for a long ball. The other was the WR who were not good enough early on but developed. A third might be the fact that we never had a RB who was a passing threat like CEH and it allowed for far more double coverage.
Posted by SofaKingTrill
Member since Mar 2008
6830 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 10:53 am to
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If a QB steps up into the pocket and into a sack, that’s not his fault. That’s on the OLine! The QB is taught to step to square to his target and step into the throw. That space should be clear. That’s not on Brennan!



That's true but I said stepping up into the pocket because it was the shortest and easiest way to describe his action. He actually stepped into his lineman who was actively blocking a defensive lineman rather than stepping forward into a pocket of space created by the line. His movement in the pocket created the sack for a player that was otherwise blocked. I wish I could find the replay of it but I'd rather not sift through highlights of that shite performance.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278480 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 10:54 am to
The concepts last year were piss poor. Hard to draw anything off of them.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103105 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 11:07 am to
Linehan was drawing up some gems from the 1960s.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8638 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 11:10 am to
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Brennan just looked nervous as hell against a poor Mississippi state team.


The entire team did too. We were underprepared for that game. We thought State was going to be easy. It was his first start. Max actually had meaningful playing time before his first start. MB didn’t. He had garbage time.

Posted by tibebecolston
Member since Mar 2013
4136 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 11:11 am to
i know the exact plays you are referring to, he actually didn’t step up he would sense pressure and instinctively look to escape every time. The pressure would come from the outside and Myles would escape to get out of the pocket right into their arms. terrible pocket awareness and instincts. He also has no internal clock or cadence of needing to throw in 3.5 seconds.

Max is the exact opposite.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8638 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 11:15 am to
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3 rd down conversion rate was horrible with him starting


MB was 11/39 (0/10 vs Mizzou with torn ab)

Max was 13/36 (starting. Didn’t do every 3rd down)

Both are terrible. I think our 3rd down play calling was the issue. We should be better this year regardless.
This post was edited on 3/28/21 at 11:22 am
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